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re: SCOTUS isn’t going to mess with immunity
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:35 pm to The Boat
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:35 pm to The Boat
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The short-sighted Democrats shot their wad bringing "Insurrection" into Trump's second impeachment. Trump was acquitted by Congress of any charges related to insurrection.
Very good post. Basically a president must be impeached first which then opens him up to criminal prosecution. Trump was acquitted for insurrection by Congress therefore closing the door on prosecution for this. This is where immunity comes in, if the Supreme says no immunity, the impeachment acquittal means nothing. So in affect the impeachment process is neutered.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:38 pm to da prophet
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So in affect the impeachment process is neutered.
I think having two bullshite show trials against Trump basically killed it as a serious thing.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:49 pm to da prophet
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Basically a president must be impeached first which then opens him up to criminal prosecution.
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The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 2:12 pm to da prophet
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Trump was acquitted for insurrection by Congress therefore closing the door on prosecution for this.
Impeachment and conviction under the Constitution is not a procedural requirement for prosecution under federal or state law. Impeachment is the Constitutional method by which Congress can remove a President, and no criminal or civil penalty is imposed against a President removed after a 2/3 vote in the Senate after a trial of impeachment.
The only two remedies associated with impeachment are removal from office and disqualification from seeking other federal office (again, reinforcing my prior post that Congress has lawmaking authority and not law enforcement authority). Removal from office is a Constitutional remedy (a check on the power of the presidency by another co-equal branch of government), not a civil or a criminal remedy.
That does not preclude the ability of the courts to try him for criminal offenses.
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 3:05 pm
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