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re: SCOTUS isn’t going to mess with immunity

Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2376 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:35 pm to
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The short-sighted Democrats shot their wad bringing "Insurrection" into Trump's second impeachment. Trump was acquitted by Congress of any charges related to insurrection.

Very good post. Basically a president must be impeached first which then opens him up to criminal prosecution. Trump was acquitted for insurrection by Congress therefore closing the door on prosecution for this. This is where immunity comes in, if the Supreme says no immunity, the impeachment acquittal means nothing. So in affect the impeachment process is neutered.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96897 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:38 pm to
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So in affect the impeachment process is neutered.


I think having two bullshite show trials against Trump basically killed it as a serious thing.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116841 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:49 pm to
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Basically a president must be impeached first which then opens him up to criminal prosecution.


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The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.




Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
667 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 2:12 pm to
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Trump was acquitted for insurrection by Congress therefore closing the door on prosecution for this.


Impeachment and conviction under the Constitution is not a procedural requirement for prosecution under federal or state law. Impeachment is the Constitutional method by which Congress can remove a President, and no criminal or civil penalty is imposed against a President removed after a 2/3 vote in the Senate after a trial of impeachment.

The only two remedies associated with impeachment are removal from office and disqualification from seeking other federal office (again, reinforcing my prior post that Congress has lawmaking authority and not law enforcement authority). Removal from office is a Constitutional remedy (a check on the power of the presidency by another co-equal branch of government), not a civil or a criminal remedy.

That does not preclude the ability of the courts to try him for criminal offenses.
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 3:05 pm
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