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re: Biden proposed 44.6% Capital Gains tax, 25% tax on Unrealized Gains

Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:10 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:10 am to
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tax on Unrealized Gains


I'm not super financially literate but I just can't wrap my head around this. Someone ELI5 and help me out here.

If I buy a stock for $100 at the beginning of the year and at the end of the year it's $200, that $100 gain will be taxed even though I haven't actually seen a penny of it while it's just sitting in my brokerage account? And then what happens when I sell it?
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:18 am to
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Someone ELI5 and help me out here.


The easy part is: taxing unrealized gains is well outside the scope of the 16th Amendment (per SCOTUS precedent and common sense). As such, if Congress passed such a bill and the President signed it into law, it would get stayed within 1 second of signing by the metric fricktons of lawsuits against it.

Another aspect of this is that one of the big ways members of Congress make millions is through their backdoor-legalized insider trading (meaning they are stock-wealthy), They aren't going to vote to cut their own fiscal throats.

Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:49 am to
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If I buy a stock for $100 at the beginning of the year and at the end of the year it's $200, that $100 gain will be taxed even though I haven't actually seen a penny of it while it's just sitting in my brokerage account? And then what happens when I sell it?


Buy for $100, initial basis is $100. End of year it's $200. You pay tax on $100 unrealized gain. Now, your basis is $200.

Middle next year, you sell for $225. You pay tax on $25 gain.

Now, what happens if middle next year, you sell for $190. Not too bad you have $10 loss.

Now, what happens if you don't sell, and at end of year 2, it' s now worth $180. You have a $20 unrealized loss. Do you get to claim that? Is it netted against unrealized gains? Does it get netted against realized gains and losses? Is there a $3,000 cap like realized losses?
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