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re: Ever wonder why governments are pushing hard for electric vehicles?
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:16 pm to billjamin
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:16 pm to billjamin
quote:Ok. I'd love to see how you feed livestock and move manure in the winter.
We have 22k acres total and zero tractors. Never needed one and neither have the previous 5 generations.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:19 pm to RollTide71
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I'd love to see how you feed livestock
You could probably sell that guy a left handed hammer. He doesn’t know anything about ranching
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:22 pm to RollTide71
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Ok. I'd love to see how you feed livestock and move manure in the winter.
We have a feed trailer. And why would i need to move manure? We don't let them by the house.
Also regarding feeding, we don't push the AU/acre so we don't have to supplement much. Helps having a shite load of land too. We're more worried about water out here.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:22 pm to texag7
quote:I know enough to keep things moving.
You could probably sell that guy a left handed hammer. He doesn’t know anything about ranching
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:24 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:If you're the one that is in Montana, I was stationed at Malmstrom in Great Falls in the early 90's. Got pretty warm in the summer (not souf georgia hot but still hot) and was definitely cold in the winter.
We used 2.7 kWh.
quote:Assuming the avg EV is 3K lbs, to tow 20k lbs the truck will have to weigh 7500 plus. You'll be essentially moving 9 EV's. You'd have to have a battery with 1000kWh or so. Thats a big battery and it's gonna take a bunch of solar panels to charge.
I'd need to be able to tow 20k lbs around 300 miles. There isn't an EV I'd want that will do that right now.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:28 pm to billjamin
quote:Because it piles up where you feed 'em. I only have 30 head of cattle, but feed around 160 rolls of hay a year and rolls weighs 900 lbs plus or minus. They waste a good bit and leave lots of poop.
And why would i need to move manure?
quote:Pull it with your electric truck?
We have a feed trailer
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:29 pm to Geekboy
Lobbyists kickbacks to those in Congress.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:34 pm to RollTide71
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Because it piles up where you feed 'em. I only have 30 head of cattle, but feed around 160 rolls of hay a year and rolls weighs 900 lbs plus or minus. They waist a good bit and leave lots of poop.
We don't do any hay and move them around between pastures so that's never been an issue. Like I said, we're only running at about 1/4 of our max AU/acre. We keep the cattle and horse mostly for tax reasons and to keep the family history going for the boys.
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Pull it with your electric truck?
I normally use my GX or Taco but I've used my SIL's Model Y to do it before.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:34 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Conservatives should embrace the self-sufficiency of solar and EVs while strongly opposing the mandates being pushed.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:42 pm to billjamin
quote:What do they eat in the winter or in droughts? Lived in Altus Oklahoma for several years. Drove thru the 6666 ranch several times and they had a multitude tractors and hundreds of thousands of acres.
We don't do any hay and move them around between pastures
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:42 pm to ronricks
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They can already do this to your home or business. They also..cut your water off
They cannot turn off my power or water without coming out here. Otherwise they would have to cut off the entire neighborhood. Good luck.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:46 pm to Geekboy
Question for the progressives:
Are electric cars heavier than other cars?
Does being heavier mean they will wear more rubber off tires?
Where does the power to charge said electric vehicles originate?
Are electric cars heavier than other cars?
Does being heavier mean they will wear more rubber off tires?
Where does the power to charge said electric vehicles originate?
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:50 pm to RollTide71
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What do they eat in the winter or in droughts?
We've never had one so severe that we weren't able to keep them fed from the natural pastures. We have spend a ton on cedar remediation though so we probably have more and better grass than most in our area. And like i said, we don't push it. Even with last years drought we still didn't need to. We're only running about 1AU per 200 acres. We don't do it to make money.
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they had a multitude tractors and hundreds of thousands of acres.
A lot of people use them and they're convenient but we just never needed it.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:51 pm to tadman
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They cannot turn off my power or water without coming out here.
Thats most likely not true. Most meters have a remote kill switch built in.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 4:01 pm to billjamin
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This doesn't make sense once you understand the domestic content restrictions on EV subsidies.
At some point in the future, if said push continues and ICEs become a relic of the past, there will be no EV subsides.
The Chinese play the long game.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 4/19/24 at 4:06 pm to keks tadpole
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The Chinese play the long game.
Yeah, their population issues are a great example of that. You should be betting on Chile and Australia. They have the most lithium. China's strangle hold on cathode material is not the issue many make it out to be because there are substitutes.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 4:07 pm to billjamin
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This doesn't make sense once you understand the domestic content restrictions on EV subsidies.
Unless you lease one, in which case the domestic content for EV subsidies doesn't exist.
Unless you are talking about something different than I am. In which case, never mind.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 4:10 pm to MemphisGuy
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Unless you lease one, in which case the domestic content for EV subsidies doesn't exist.
The bank that underwrites the lease gets it then if it's qualified.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 4:14 pm to Geekboy
It's all part of the demoncrapic effort to destroy America from within.
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