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re: "Conservatism" has to be more than just a defensive posture

Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:11 am to
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:11 am to
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Theres no one running for POTUS close to that. Its a wasted election.


I beg to differ. If Joe Biden wins the election, it is wasted.

If Donald Trump wins, there is a chance that this election will be the best thing that has happened to America in a long, long time. It has been a long time since anyone with the power and the desire to effect the changes that conservatives want. Is Donald Trump the guy to do that?
I don't really think so, but I think he can set the table for those that will.

There is a reason we don't see conservative changes - the Republican establishment doesn't want secure borders, lower taxes /spending, less regulation, and smaller government. Sure, there are people in Congress who want these things (or claim to, at any rate), but Massie and Paul will never get close to the Presidency or any place else where they have a bully pulpit that will make people stand up and listen to them. They won't be allowed.

Say what you may about Donald Trump, but he doesn't like the establishment, ESPECIALLY after what they have done to him. He is the ONLY guy running for President who MIGHT spend a considerable amount of time exposing corruption and hypocrisy both in and out of the party. Just the fact that a bunch of RINOs are resigning from Congress is good news.

IMO, taking 4 years to tackle a corrupt bureaucracy is worth putting some of the absolute conservative principles on hold for a while - things we wouldn't get otherwise. The corrupt bureaucracy loves Joe Biden. They don't even have to convince him to go along with their agenda. He just does what they tell him to do. Trump would not and Trump would question our motives about money and policy. Hell, he got impeached for questioning where the money we sent to Ukraine was being spent. And that was before the war with Russia.

A vote for Trump gives at least some hope that we can expose how our government works (or doesn't work). Will he be successful? No one knows, although I think you think you do. But I can guarantee you this - another Joe Biden Presidency not only will NOT result in any conservative policy being implemented, but will also strengthen the corrupt establishment's stranglehold on DC.

When will we see an outsider willing to take on the establishment again? I doubt it will happen in my lifetime...
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45247 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:30 am to
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IMO, taking 4 years to tackle a corrupt bureaucracy is worth putting some of the absolute conservative principles on hold for a while - things we wouldn't get otherwise.


This is a great point. The left has made so many gains because they have mastered the art of playing the long game. The right has never even heard of the long game.
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