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re: Arizona law change. Major ?.

Posted on 4/15/24 at 8:17 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 8:17 am to
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How many social conservatives, when lamenting the hyper sexuality of this age, are specifically complaining about age of consent laws?

It shows a philosophical conflict

Like I said I'm using this is a concrete example for people who like to promote reviving our values and morals from the past. They only look back at it in hindsight and cherry pick the values and morals they can apply as hoc.

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AOC laws are intended to prevent the sexual abuse and exploitation of children and teens that are not intellectually, emotionally, or physically ready to engage in sexual relationships with more mature adults

Then think about what this says about a society and its morality that believes in 11 year old is capable of avoiding these issues.

Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 8:36 am to
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It shows a philosophical conflict Like I said I'm using this is a concrete example for people who like to promote reviving our values and morals from the past. They only look back at it in hindsight and cherry pick the values and morals they can apply as hoc.
Its not really a philosophical conflict, though. Those of us who “long for the sexual ethics of the past” are not making such statements with every possible sexual issue in mind but say such things broadly against the backdrop of the sexual liberalism of today. If you ask for specific responses to every specific issue, I’m sure a lowered AOC would not be included in that longing for the reasons I stated. It would actually be philosophically consistent to oppose a lowered AOC in our culture that is suffering from hyper sexuality and a lack of concern for the importance of monogamous and committed marriage.

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Then think about what this says about a society and its morality that believes in 11 year old is capable of avoiding these issues.
Its near impossible for an 11 year old to avoid that in our sexually immoral culture. That wasn’t the case hundreds of years ago when children and teens were much more mature than they are now on average in regards to the realities of life, when marriage was expected and divorce was shunned (the opposite is true now) for the care and protection of the family unit, and the high mortality rate of child birth and infant mortality typically called for younger mothers and many pregnancy attempts. The entire culture—including public sexual morality, views of the importance of family and marriage, and procreation—is completely different today than in centuries past.
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