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Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:35 pm to
I saw an interview with Goggins where he said he had no clue that "war...war never changes" was su hna big deal in the games, and more or less asked the interviewer if he did it justice. Was relieved he did it right

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On the finale: were you aware of the significance of the line “War—war never changes” when you read it? It's a very familiar line from the Fallout games.

I gotta be honest with you, I didn't know that. I had no idea. And I am so happy I didn't know that, because I would have been so intimidated by it.

So no one flagged it with you?

No one flagged me with it. No one told me that it was a line from the game.

It's like, the line. It's the equivalent of “Luke, I am your father.”

[He pauses.] Man, I had no idea. I had no idea. I swear to god. No one ever brought that up to me. No one ever said that. No one ever mentioned it to me.

Give it a little YouTube.

I'm never giving it a YouTube. I don't want to know, you know what I mean? I don't wanna compare it, because then I'd just be doing an impersonation of somebody else saying it.

It's beautifully recontextualized in the show.

Oh, great, okay — if we pulled it off, and you believed it, then there we go. Thank god.


Well, you know, he's evoking the words he heard from the lips of his wife when she essentially sanctioned nuclear genocide.

I can't believe the revelation you just gave me. I don't know how any things that came out of my mouth relate to the game. And thank god. I don't want to know. I mean, it's okay that you're telling me now, because you've already said it. But if you know some of the dialogue from season two, please don't give me a frickin' clue at all. Oh my god, I would have freaked out. I wouldn't have come to work that day.


Another good part:

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We also find out that all this time, The Ghoul has been trying to find his family, who may or may not still be out there. It's a huge reveal.

What was surprising to me, when I read it on the page, even though I had an idea of where it was going… the betrayal that he felt, at understanding that his wife was the principal architect of this entire experience.

I don't know if this was your experience watching it, but the way that the director shot that particular sequence, it was as if I was looking into the camera, looking straight at her, and she was looking at the camera at me. And from her point of view, her argument was righteous. She lays out an idea that is bulletproof in her mind, and it isn't a compromise of morals; this is a reality. And I can never see it that way.

That is clearly the motivation for his staying alive. Why else would he? It has to be something that important. I have an idea in my own head what that means, but is it to seek revenge? Is his daughter alive? I don't know the answer to that question. Is his wife alive? I don't know the answer to that question, either. So is it a reunion? Is it an opportunity to say what you didn't get a chance to say, 200 years earlier? It is so absurd. But god, if you love your child as much as I love mine… I would frickin' hang on for 200 years to look my kid in the eyes again.

And I think about that moment: well, okay, if they are still alive — which no one knows the answer to that question — if that's even a possibility… would he want to see her without her seeing him? And that just moves me emotionally in ways I can't even talk about without tearing up, because of the person he's become. But we're all capable of change. He certainly has changed. And then you can change again.

But it's also 200 years to be haunted by a betrayal.

frick, man. That's a long time. And what were the conversations that happened between that discovery, and where we find Cooper Howard, who is reduced to doing pony rides, and lasso tricks, for backyard parties?
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 6:48 pm
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