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re: The paradox of tolerance
Posted on 4/14/24 at 2:03 pm to TN Tygah
Posted on 4/14/24 at 2:03 pm to TN Tygah
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Maybe Christians are right.
Which century of Christians are you referring to?
A few decades ago? That's Christianity whose sword had been dulled by centuries of secular thought.
Christianity of the 1600s? 1200s? 800s? I doubt you want to live under those value systems.
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But this country was founded on Judeo Christian values...
Incorrect. Read article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli. One generation after this country our Senate UNANIMOUSLY approved that statement. Pretty sure they know better what this country was meant to be than this board or the preachers they follow.
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I wouldn’t mind one bit if my kid comes home from school saying he’s saved by Jesus and starts praying, as opposed to coming home and thinking he’s fricking trans.
100%.
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Christians outnumber everyone else and even an atheist or agnostic has to acknowledge that people adhering to Jesus’ teachings are typically going to turn out to be rad people.
Also 100% true.
Bear in mind, though, you're comparing thousands of years of Christianity molding itself and improving itself and comparing it to a few decades worth of secularism.
Change the subject slightly, and most of this board would call progressivism a religion. Point out what we're seeing today really isn't secularism, it's some leftist quasi-religion and they'll tell you no, it's 100% secular.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 2:56 pm to Azkiger
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Incorrect. Read article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli. One generation after this country our Senate UNANIMOUSLY approved that statement. Pretty sure they know better what this country was meant to be than this board or the preachers they follow.
Semantics and too literal. Our law is based on Judeo-Christian values. You can argue it can apply to something like Hinduism, but it’s much easier to be a Muslim in the US than in India. Little things like restrictions on cow slaughtering to bigger things like 12 out of 28 Indian states that implement anti-conversion laws. shite would never fly in the US.
Also, unlike the part of the intolerant and terroristic Quran that I cited, the New Testament instead says love your enemies. Huge difference. The extent of punishing non-Christians was basically, Jesus would yell at you and say get behind me Satan, or something. Big whoop.
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Christianity of the 1600s? 1200s? 800s? I doubt you want to live under those value systems.
What does this have to do with what the New Testament actually teaches? What does it have to do with the US which was founded in 1776? Nothing. I’m not saying there wasn’t some refining. The constitution was never explicitly endorsing Christian values, but things like sanctity of life, emphasis on family (like idiotic things such as the 14th amendment), etc.
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