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re: Per Caroline Wren, Planned Parenthood plans to spend 60 million in AZ on the 2024 election

Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:44 am to
Posted by tarzana
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:44 am to
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PP repents and quits that evil practice

I read a lot about "virtue signaling" on this board, but here in the text of this post is pure virtue signaling.

First of all, unbeknownst to many on the anti-choice Radical Right, the majority of pregnancies today are ended via the "morning after pill", a sane alternative to slicing and dicing, and coathangers. The suicidal right-wing party wants to eliminate that option.

Secondly, those who condemn choice options as "evil practice" have no idea of the circumstances surrounding the pregnancy, nor the impact on maternal health if the pregnancy is permitted to continue.

Now who's "virtue signaling?"
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41826 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:17 am to
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I read a lot about "virtue signaling" on this board, but here in the text of this post is pure virtue signaling.
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Now who's "virtue signaling?"
Virtue signaling is the practice of expressing some sort of moral perspective with the intent of receiving validation or praise for that view, especially when that view being held is disingenuous. I'm not doing that at all, and for you say that I'm virtue signaling exposes that you either don't know what virtue signaling is, or you are not clear on my motives.

I think at this point, I have been very clear where I stand on the issue of abortion. I'm a Christian, and I have been engaged in many of the threads on this forum regarding abortion, calling out the evils of it. I firmly believe that the practice of autonomous abortion (meaning, abortion as an expression of man's autonomy) is an offense against man and an offense against God. You can disagree, but you can't argue that I don't hold this view honestly and passionately unless you simply haven't seen me express my position on this.

To be clear, I'm not virtue signaling. I don't care about the praise or affirmations of my peers on this issue but want simply to express my hatred of the practice due to moral reasons.

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First of all, unbeknownst to many on the anti-choice Radical Right, the majority of pregnancies today are ended via the "morning after pill", a sane alternative to slicing and dicing, and coathangers. The suicidal right-wing party wants to eliminate that option.
I'm in favor of eliminating all true abortions, which are the terminations of pregnancies that are done with the intent to kill the child. That means I want the abortion pill banned as well as all in-office procedures performed by medical professionals. I believe there are two sides to this discussion, one that takes into account the woman's side (personal responsibility and options for help) as well as the baby's side (not killing it).

I want all people--men and women alike--to take responsibility for their actions and understand that killing a human being is not a responsible or moral option for dealing with hardships and difficulties, whether talking about pregnancy, assisted suicide, or other related issues.

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Secondly, those who condemn choice options as "evil practice" have no idea of the circumstances surrounding the pregnancy, nor the impact on maternal health if the pregnancy is permitted to continue.
Even if I were to grant the very small percentage of cases of rape, incest, and life-threatening situations of the mother (I don't, but for the sake of argument I'll grant those), the vast, vast, vast majority of abortions are done for other reasons. I don't believe we should give parents the right to kill their children who are outside the womb when difficult situations arise, so I don't believe children inside the womb should be purposefully killed due to difficult situations, either.

As someone who has multiple children, myself, I'm very aware of the hardships that children bring, and yet I don't believe a valid way of addressing those hardships is to kill those who are contributing to them, even in a passive way. I believe in investing in other options that don't involve the purposeful taking of life.

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