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re: Disparate Impact Thinking Is Destroying Our Civilization

Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:04 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124542 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:04 am to
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“guilty of grooming AND indoctrination” (2 different things) AND they are massively underperforming.

But these things are only tangentially related.
Time and influence are requisite to educational expansion .... or indoctrination.

Schools are granted time and influence with our kids.

In exchange, we expect our public education system should at least approach our children's educational potential. But public schools are not meeting those expectations. Nowhere is that more evident than in the 3% OP statistic.

One might argue, as some here do, that time and influence of schools is overrated compared with that of the extracurricular/home environment. But that argument falls flat if the same folks lament schools have the time and influence to indoctrinate kids. Obviously, if they have wherewithal to indoctrinate, they have capacity to educate. Yet they are are failing to educate. That is the point being made.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72360 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:09 am to
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But that argument falls flat if the same folks lament schools have the time and influence to indoctrinate kids. Obviously, if they have wherewithal to indoctrinate, they have capacity to educate. Yet they are are failing to educate. That is the point being made.
This argument doesn’t carry water.

You are implying that the time spent indoctrinating is separate from the time spent educating.

There is a finite supply of time.

Any time spent indoctrinating is time not spent educating, and vice versa.

If they have the wherewithal to indoctrinate, they have the capacity to educate, but if the time is spent indoctrinating, it isn’t spent educating.

Both can exist, and do exist, separately.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262895 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:18 am to
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Yet they are are failing to educate.


Primarily because parents dont care, and public systems are rigid.

Youre not going to make this parent(s) care. The best you can hope for is to spark some interest in a few kids.

Half of the country doesnt value education. If you dont fix "home" youre wasting money on schools.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262895 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:32 am to
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Schools are granted time and influence with our kids.

In exchange, we expect our public education system should at least approach our children's educational potential.



The groove I get from the left is our kids belong to the schools. At least thats according to the rhetoric I am hearing.

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