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Apple is going to use the RCS Universal Profile not Google's Jibe. I believe they've also indicated they are going to work with GSMA to add encryption to the Universal Profile.

That's just it, the government wants them to build their own version of messaging that is compatible with what Google is doing. The carriers, who should be doing this job, not Google or Apple, aren't doing shite and don't care to do shite here. You said carrier before, they are doing f**k all and in some cases just throwing up their hands and saying f**k it, Google can do it.

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Apple piggybacked iMessage on SMS, a universal messaging system which is what consumers really want, and brought those users onto their platform "seamlessly" (which is a nice way to say "underhandedly"). Then when people tried to switch to Android, they weren't receiving their messages because Apple had hijacked their phone numbers (iPhones were still trying to send iMessages to their numbers instead of SMS).

That's fricked up. I don't know if Apple has since fixed that issue, but it's not the only example of Apple doing shady shite to lock in users and make it hard to switch.

This is fricked up and should never been allowed, I think this for the most part has been made easier if you read the instructions, people don't really like to do that though.

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Posted by Fat Batman

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Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:52 am to Dam Guide

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That's just it, the government wants them to build their own version of messaging that is compatible with what Google is doing. The carriers, who should be doing this job, not Google or Apple, aren't doing shite and don't care to do shite here. You said carrier before, they are doing f**k all and in some cases just throwing up their hands and saying f**k it, Google can do it.

RCS, i believe was put together by 3GPP and is backed by GSMA and OMA as the industry supported successor to SMS/MMS. I said carriers because it conveys the same thing, the industry supports the move to RCS. Sure, Google is really the only one doing anything with RCS currently, but that is more because they are the only ones that had to since apple already hijacked native messaging with iMessage. Google doesn't own RCS, they own Jibe which is currently the only RCS on android. Anyone can create an RCS implementation, for instance Apple will. And Google has already committed to opening up an API for 3rd party apps once Jibe reaches a more stable state. I don't view it as much as the government saying you have to integrate with what Google is doing as much as the government saying you have to support the new industry successor to SMS/MMS. They already built iMessage to support "what google (and everyone else) was doing" when it was just SMS/MMS. This is just bringing universal compatibility back in sync. I could careless who owns the metal, carriers or Google or Apple or anyone else who's integration you choose to use, and would argue Google taking over pushed RCS further than the carriers would have. Now Apple is coming along and wants to add encryption to the Universal Profile (look at that, already spurring some innovation) which pushes the RCS protocol even further. I don't think there is anything wrong with owning discrete RCS integrations as they would all work together, which is the whole point of all of this. None of this would be happening if Apple wasn't exhibiting exclusionary behavior.

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