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re: Marques Brownlee explains the Apple Antitrust lawsuit
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:02 am to Fat Batman
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:02 am to Fat Batman
My non-lawyer take is that most all of everyone's statements are true at the same time:
-Apple is kinda getting hosed here. They built a superior product and marketed da fuq outta it. It's the most popular phone/messagine (with imessage) platform in the US.
-Google/android users do get hosed somewhat that apple users are locked into imessage which always screws up messaging to android users aka sms/mms.
-If the roles were reversed, both companies would be doing the same thing, just reversed.
-At the end of the day, I personally, don't see imessage as a monopoly. It's part of the ecosystem within apple's phones. There are clear alternatives out there to an iphone. The consumer has spoken within the US market so it shouldn't be on apple to play nice with opponents. Competitors should merely do better or build a better product in order to make Apple the inferior product.
It's called competition by innovation to me. Google/Android seems, again, to me, to be trying to bitch smack Apple but by the Govt's hand. That leads to a slippery slope.
ETA: In full disclosure, I'm an apple user and my whole family is too. That being said, I also use an nVidia Shield TV and have had android phones. I like the product, I just like Apple for my family/kids a bit better. They both do things really well and have both spurred innovation from each other.
-Apple is kinda getting hosed here. They built a superior product and marketed da fuq outta it. It's the most popular phone/messagine (with imessage) platform in the US.
-Google/android users do get hosed somewhat that apple users are locked into imessage which always screws up messaging to android users aka sms/mms.
-If the roles were reversed, both companies would be doing the same thing, just reversed.
-At the end of the day, I personally, don't see imessage as a monopoly. It's part of the ecosystem within apple's phones. There are clear alternatives out there to an iphone. The consumer has spoken within the US market so it shouldn't be on apple to play nice with opponents. Competitors should merely do better or build a better product in order to make Apple the inferior product.
It's called competition by innovation to me. Google/Android seems, again, to me, to be trying to bitch smack Apple but by the Govt's hand. That leads to a slippery slope.
ETA: In full disclosure, I'm an apple user and my whole family is too. That being said, I also use an nVidia Shield TV and have had android phones. I like the product, I just like Apple for my family/kids a bit better. They both do things really well and have both spurred innovation from each other.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 8:14 am
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:20 am to DoubleDown
iMessage is nice...so is RCS. Having only SMS/MMS cross system is trash for everyone.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:43 am to DoubleDown
My non lawyer take is I'm not smart enough to know the in and outs of the Guberment lawsuit, but I'm sure enjoying the back and forth banter in this thread.
Oh and iMessage Sucks.
Oh and iMessage Sucks.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:48 am to DoubleDown
quote:
At the end of the day, I personally, don't see imessage as a monopoly. It's part of the ecosystem within apple's phones. There are clear alternatives out there to an iphone. The consumer has spoken within the US market so it shouldn't be on apple to play nice with opponents.
If Apple had made iMessage a standalone messaging app, and Apple users chose to use it to message other Apple users, then I would agree that the consumer has spoken.
But that's not how it happened.
Apple piggybacked iMessage on SMS, a universal messaging system which is what consumers really want, and brought those users onto their platform "seamlessly" (which is a nice way to say "underhandedly"). Then when people tried to switch to Android, they weren't receiving their messages because Apple had hijacked their phone numbers (iPhones were still trying to send iMessages to their numbers instead of SMS).
That's fricked up. I don't know if Apple has since fixed that issue, but it's not the only example of Apple doing shady shite to lock in users and make it hard to switch.
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