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re: So the rumor is that Tulane's Patrick Jenkins is the target DT from the portal

Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:14 am to
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:14 am to
PFF is a really dumb way to determine if somebody is actually good. I’ll go find the video and post it later of NFL coaches and players shitting on it bc the guys doing the breakdowns don’t know the what the assignment of that player was especially on defense. How can you grade if I guy had a successful snap if you aren’t sure of their assignment.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68642 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:24 am to
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PFF is a really dumb way to determine if somebody is actually good.


I mean its a completely impartial view that's going to be as unbiased as it comes to grade someone over every single snap they play, not just the 3 or 4 plays you remember that were really bad or really good. The common issue regular people have forming an opinion on a player is they only remember those few extreme plays from a game and have no recollection of anything else. Raw stats dont prove anything really. You could have a linebacker get 14 tackles in a game and played pretty poorly. Likewise you could have a DT play a gret game and maybe they had 1 tackle on the stat sheet. Nobody on here is watching every snap of every player in the portal and could determine how good they are. So PFF seems like a pretty good source to cite in determining how good a player might be overall.

Generally speaking, if you're a better player, your grades will be higher. Who cares if they mess up a few things here and there, the collective amount which is vast shouldnt be far off. They dont need to know every single assignment on every play, in the end of the collective amount of grades, it will be pretty representative of a player generally speaking. Is it the end all be all? No, but I'd trust their system grading out a guy over 3-4 years over some rando on the internet that says something like "well I saw him play well in this 1 game for this 1 quarter, so he's great!" if you will.

For example with Jenkins he got a lot pressure on QBs last season, but still only ended up with a above average pass rush grade. This could be for a multitude of reasons people arent thinking about at all. Maybe he over-pursued taking himself out of a lot of other plays, etc...
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 8:27 am
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279334 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:10 am to
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PFF is a really dumb way to determine if somebody is actually good.


As opposed to one tigerdropping poster who watched him play 1H vs Ole miss?

I’ve been posting here a long time, and the general public is absolutely clueless most of the time with any action that happens away from the ball.



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I’ll go find the video and post it later of NFL coaches and players shitting on it bc the guys doing the breakdowns don’t know the what the assignment of that player was especially on defense




The same team’s front offices & scouting departments are using PFF data to analyze players

Posted by Geauxldrush
Member since Jul 2022
498 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 12:56 am to
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PFF is a really dumb way to determine if somebody is actually good. I’ll go find the video and post it later of NFL coaches and players shitting on it bc the guys doing the breakdowns don’t know the what the assignment of that player was especially on defense. How can you grade if I guy had a successful snap if you aren’t sure of their assignment.

PFF correlates with draft position and all-conference selections. That said it is a tool you pair it with stats/accolades to form a more educated opinion
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