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re: When did "the news" flip to propaganda?

Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by Tomatocantender
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Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:28 pm to
It may have started to flip a little with Clinton, but it crossed the Rubicon in 2008 with Obama.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:40 pm to
When Obama realized he could do or say whatever he wanted and the media would cover for him. Thats when the toothpaste came out of the tube and couldn’t be put back in.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 3/29/24 at 5:21 pm to
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It may have started to flip a little with Clinton, but it crossed the Rubicon in 2008 with Obama.


I would say a little prior to 2008 when Obama was running. All the pieces were in place by 06 or 07.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/29/24 at 7:01 pm to
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It may have started to flip a little with Clinton, but it crossed the Rubicon in 2008 with Obama.


I'm going to go a little further. I think the seeds were planted with the "Rock the Vote" campaign in 1990. While it started as a method of getting new voters registered and out to vote in the mid-terms, it really started growing leading up to the 1992 election with the Clinton campaign.

This (and successive) programs have pushed voter registration but as a vehicle for party votes. In other words, the drive isn't usually to register new voters so much as it is to get new voters (who often aren't paying much attention to politics) to vote for a certain party/candidate (and it's usually Democrat).

Those young adults who rocked the vote of the 1990s are the broadcasters, politicians, teachers and professors of today. As they've moved into higher positions we've seen a stark difference in coverage. When Clinton was in office, there was a new scandal almost every week. Travelgate, Lewinsky, Whitewater, Paula Jones, Vince Foster, etc. These (and many others) led to Bill and Hillary (but mainly Bill) being lampooned by late night hosts, SNL, etc.

This continued into the GW Bush administrations, but then suddenly stopped with Obama. Right-leaning news would carry stories which cast Obama in a negative light, but those increasingly disappeared from the majority of news media while not even SNL lampooned Obama. It seemed to change back when Trump got into office, but Biden's term has shown that it's become almost completely biased.

The news media of the 1990s and prior had field days with Biden's plagiarism. Today? The guy shakes hands with empty air, often has trouble speaking, reportedly couldn't even remember Obama's name, etc. and it's largely ignored by the media.
Posted by NoSaint
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Posted on 3/29/24 at 7:40 pm to
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may have started to flip a little with Clinton, but it crossed the Rubicon in 2008 with Obama.


Definitely doesn’t correspond primarily with:

A) our own transition from a brief educational viewing opportunity to it being news entertainment 24/7

B) us getting access to a billion more sources that change the idea of us sharing the reality of whatever was in that hour
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