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re: If Brock Bowers or Rome Odunze are still on the board at 14, do you take one of them?

Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:40 am to
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:40 am to
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It's deep with B-level guys. There are no elite guys, and Alt is the only B+ prospect.


According to who?

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They don't have to be near that level to not be worth it. Most non-S tier OL don't really step up until year 3. That will (hopefully) be Carr's final year. They won't help at all this year, which your needs-based argument is structured around. Bowers will only not produce in year 1 if our coaches don't want him to.


This is all made up assumption. Several rookie OL drafted in first rounds have produced productively for their teams. You can literally look up every year the amount of rookie OL drafted in first round that are productive .

You have such high hopes for Bowers. I will say this again in the past 20 years very few if any TE in the first round have had a productive rookie season. Yet your almost for certain Bowers will. Most of the leagues best TEs weren’t drafted in the first round.

No offense the basis of your whole argument is based on your personal assessments of draft prospects while Im telling you historically everything you have stated is not true. (For instance by stating Bowers will have an impact if coaches let him). I don’t mind having an argument but using your own analysis of draft prospects for validation of your argument to pick BPA is just silly.
This post was edited on 3/31/24 at 8:49 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:51 am to
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According to who?

Honest draft evaluators.

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This is all made up assumption.

No it's data-based.

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Several rookie OL drafted in first rounds have produced productively for their teams.

Typically these are S-tier prospects. This drat has none of those.

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I will say this again in the past 20 years very few if any TE in the first round have had a productive rookie season.

1. Bowers is the best TE prospect ever
2. Coaches are dumb and try to mold players instead of working around what they do.

As I said, "Bowers will only not produce in year 1 if our coaches don't want him to."

If our coaches want him as an in-line blocker, he probably won't even see the field. That would be retarded, however.

The reason I have so much faith in Bowers producing early is that he's not a particularly good blocker. This means any smart coach will use him as a receiver primarily, which is where he's dominant.

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No offense you back your whole argument based on your personal assessments of draft prospects
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Not mine.

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