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re: Active Marines - Have Women in the Infantry Had a Negative Impact on the USMC?
Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:52 am to lsusa
Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:52 am to lsusa
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My point is clearly that the standard for adding women to the infantry shouldn’t be that it makes our military “better” and “more lethal”
Why not? There are clearly downsides to managing mixed gender troops in a forward area, which is why they have to attempt to segregate and have policies about males/females being in various living spaces. There’s a reason they weren’t allowed on ships long after they were allowed in the Navy, and it took longer still to allow them on subs.
So if we’re going to add negatives when we integrate them, and clearly we are, then they need to be worth it. Maintaining the status quo, which they clearly don’t do anyway, shouldn’t be enough. The military shouldn’t be viewed as a jobs program that’s “fair”, but that’s how a lot of people look at it. Sounds like you’re one of them.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 1:27 pm to Flats
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Why not? There are clearly downsides to managing mixed gender troops in a forward area, which is why they have to attempt to segregate and have policies about males/females being in various living spaces. There’s a reason they weren’t allowed on ships long after they were allowed in the Navy, and it took longer still to allow them on subs. So if we’re going to add negatives when we integrate them, and clearly we are, then they need to be worth it. Maintaining the status quo, which they clearly don’t do anyway, shouldn’t be enough. The military shouldn’t be viewed as a jobs program that’s “fair”, but that’s how a lot of people look at it. Sounds like you’re one of them.
To quote Ronald Reagan- “there you go again”.
You make hyperbolic arguments about “clear downsides” and “reasons they weren’t allowed on ships”.
Then of course, you resort to the old standby of “sounds like you’re one of them” in an attempt to invoke the liberal boogie man - which ignores the fact that I have stated multiple times I am “against making special exceptions to get females in”.
If you’re making a blanket exclusion to 51% of the population - even though a much smaller percentage of that group may qualify - you are lowering the pool of potential candidates. That can result in issues with the numerical strength as well as the quality. Those concerns far outweigh the simple existence of having to “manage mixed gendered troops”.
I stand by my statement. Set the standards. If a marine passes it, the marine passes it. I’m against making a special exception to “get more females in” but similarly against a restriction that keeps a female who qualifies out “because”.
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