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re: Active Marines - Have Women in the Infantry Had a Negative Impact on the USMC?

Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:36 am to
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
4465 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:36 am to
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The results say you're full of shite.


You like throwing that term around. The point has already been made,…a combat load isn’t the 45 pounds mentioned in some earlier post for the MCRE hump. A real combat load is two to three times that, with crew served weapons and a ton of ammo spread out between every Marine.

Sticking with the MCRE for a second…our standard wasn’t 8 freaking hours either…we understood that we had 6.5 hours to finish, period. Every one I ever did (maybe seven in all) we finished in just over 6 hours. The lightest load used was the one we did to graduate ITB. That one was still with eight 81s, three 50s, 3 Dragons, 3 MK19s, etc. We also had dozens of 240s spread out. That was the easiest one I did as a Marine, and there’s almost no chance a typical WM could have kept up or contributed in any way. The ITB hump included Mt. MF snd 1stSgt’s hill.

Are there some rare, probably roided up, females that could not only keep up but contribute to carrying the load on a movement like that…probably a few. They’re the extreme exception, however.

All the above is just fricking TRAINING! That’s nothing compared to actual fricking infantry combat operations.

I haven’t even touched on the mental aspect and how females differ from males. They’re not fricking wired the same. Just because some butch WM talks tough doesn’t mean she isn’t going to shut down when her fellow Marine’s guts are sprayed all over her face and she herself has a piece of fricking shrapnel sticking out of her leg.

I saw an Army female once manning a 50 mounted to a HUMVEE. She didn’t recognize our vehicles and was yelling for us to stop. I guess the 50 was malfunctioning. She was frantically trying to pull the charging handle on the 50 but couldn’t. I’m almost certain that the bitch would have lit us up if she had the strength to pull that handle all the way back.

My B-billet was Marine Combat Instructor at SOI East. I saw the females going through MCT regularly. Not even their butches female instructor could have passed the male PFT back then. Are there females that can do dead hang pull ups and run relatively as fast for 3 miles as the average male Marine…sure, but they’re unicorns. Even so, pull ups and a three mile time isn’t what defines an infantry Marine.

Go ahead…say everything above is bullshite. That’s about all you’ve got apparently.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73483 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 9:07 am to
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You like throwing that term around.


Because it's accurate, and always based on some dipshit who heard some other dipshit talking.

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typical WM


Here's your problem, sport. I don't care about this. The standard is the standard, and if they hit the standard, then shut the frick up.

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Go ahead…say everything above is bullshite.


Deal. You're full of shite. "I saw an Army female this one time..."

Who gives a frick.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 9:33 am to
My son-in-law is a Gunny in the 5th Marines. He was an instructor at the SOI on Pendleton. He is now back in the fleet and currently deployed.

I've asked him this question before, and he says it's not a big deal to them and that all this DEI crap that civilians get so worked up about has very little to no basis in reality at the tip of the spear.
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