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Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by Tigershine
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:57 pm to
Hey Alt, Skepticism is understandable even acceptable. Doing everything possible to subvert the program IS NOT ACCEAPTABLE. And what you need tounderstand that denigrating the abilities of the coach at every opportunity does in fact subvert the program? I'm not saying it's your job or anyone else's to recruit for McMahon, but when did it become your job to harm the program?

What I and I believe most others are saying is to let the process play out. As long as progress on the court is on display, I'm willing to be patient. Only infants and juveniles demand instant gratification.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28654 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 9:06 am to
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Hey Alt, Skepticism is understandable even acceptable. Doing everything possible to subvert the program IS NOT ACCEAPTABLE. And what you need tounderstand that denigrating the abilities of the coach at every opportunity does in fact subvert the program? I'm not saying it's your job or anyone else's to recruit for McMahon, but when did it become your job to harm the program?


I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but fans on a message board aren't that important. Certainly not enough to "subvert" a program. If that were the case then EVERY program in America (expect maybe UConn at the moment) would perpetually be "subverted" because they have fans on message boards being critical of players/coaches.

This is nothing more than a discussion forum. That's it. We all share the common bond of being a fan of LSU sports. But many of us hold differing opinions. My opinion is I'm not sold on McMahon being a good HC because he's done nothing at LSU (to date) to prove such. I don't think so highly of myself to believe that some prospective player is thinking "Well, I was going to go to LSU. But some anonymous guy online doesn't think they have a very good coach. So I'm going to go elsewhere"

What actually harms the program is people not showing up to games or giving much of a shite...which I can tell you first hand is largely the case often being one of the 5k - 6k fans at the game. That's not because those folks were planning to go to a game until they saw a negative posts on a message board. It's because the program/performance has provided them with little desire to show up.

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What I and I believe most others are saying is to let the process play out. As long as progress on the court is on display, I'm willing to be patient. Only infants and juveniles demand instant gratification.


In a different era of basketball I would agree with you. But the game has COMPLETELY changed with the transfer rules. Thus, your perspective has to change with it. It does not take multiple years to build a competitive team anymore. It just doesn't It can happen in the span of literally one off season. Hopefully that happens for LSU this season in the same fashion it occurred with teams like South Carolina and Florida this past season. But until it actually happens there is a legitimate basis to be skeptical.

You can both want the coach/program to succeed AND have doubts he can.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 9:15 am to
quote:

What I and I believe most others are saying is to let the process play out. As long as progress on the court is on display, I'm willing to be patient. Only infants and juveniles demand instant gratification.


I won't even address the Subvert the program statement because its to dumb. Fans are allowed to be critical. You don't have to act like everything is fine to trick recruits. Damn it. I addressed it.

What drives me up a wall about opinions like this quote is that some fans want everyone to act like the basketball program and coach have no faults and people should be patient while others on this board are criticizing Jay Johnson on his coaching abilities less than a year removed from a NC. My point isn't that Jay shouldn't be criticized but more that every coach and program should feel the pressure from fans when they are not performing to the standard.

I believe in CMM's ability to develop players and I think he has done a decent job at recruiting. I am cautiously optimistic that we take another step forward next season.
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