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re: So protein has 4 calories per Gram...

Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:28 am to
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:28 am to
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fact that you can easily eat in a caloric surplus with eggs and steak


And you aren’t going to become an obese diabetic unhealthy slob with no energy eating in a caloric surplus with steak and eggs like you will with pop tarts, lucky charms, and tv dinners. It’s not the same.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 11:41 am to
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And you aren’t going to become an obese diabetic unhealthy slob with no energy eating in a caloric surplus with steak and eggs like you will with pop tarts, lucky charms, and tv dinners. It’s not the same.


If you are inactive you certainly could
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3164 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:30 am to
It's all the same, Ron. Calories are calories.

This is why the most elite athletes in the world just get their protein from 3-4 servings of pro series muscle milk throughout the day, and top off their carbs and fats with bowls of lucky charms and milk.

Look at the diet videos of any pro bodybuilder or powerlifter. They all obviously know the science, and they don't bother themselves with eating chicken and rice and fish and lean meats and healthy fats. They just eat what is easy and tastes yummy. I mean.....right?

I've edited my plan for OP. Just do three servings of muscle milk pro series, 3 servings of skittles for carbs, and 3 servings of pork rinds drizzled with melted butter for fat, every day.

That's 175 g protein, 219 g carbs, 69 g fats, and 2200 calories.

You'll lose weight and feel great.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:33 am to
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And you aren’t going to become an obese diabetic unhealthy slob with no energy eating in a caloric surplus with steak and eggs like you will with pop tarts, lucky charms, and tv dinners. It’s not the same.


if you are not lifting...other than the thermic effect from the protein...yea it is the same.

your body doesnt say....oh i have no reason for the excess calories other than storage of fat but oh since these calories are fat...im not going to store it as fat

here is a fact...dietary fat is the easiest of all the macros to store as bodyfat. that is a fact, look it up.


dont take this as me saying you should eat pop tarts, tv dinners etc to be healthy. yall keep inferring that from what im writing. im alos not saying that the insulin repsonse has no effect on fat storage when in a caloric surplus, as it does. much less so in a caloric deficit.

im simply saying in a caloric surplus...once dietary induced thermogensis from the protein is accounted for...if you are not lifting...the body is going to store the excess calories as body fat. it has no use for the calories other wise. if you are lifitng, its going to use what it needs to recover aka build muscle, then it will fill up its glycogen stores then it will store the rest as body fat

now im not saying drinking 4 protein shakes and eating the rest of calories in pop tarts is optimal. your health markers are prolly not going to look the best and you are not gonna have much energy. but if calories are the same and you take into account DET then you will lose the same amount of bodyfat as someone that is eating nothing but chicken and rice. normal person would end up eating way more calories but if calories are tracked extremely close...it would be the same

go read about the guy who did the Twinkie diet and others who have done similar things.

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