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re: Judge appointed by O'Bama rules illegals can legally carry firearms and ammo
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:36 am to BCreed1
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:36 am to BCreed1
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No, you are literally trying to apply the constitution to every human on the planet
"in this country."
Do courts offer due process to foreigners in this country?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:36 am to BCreed1
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No, you are literally trying to apply the constitution to every human on the planet.
And that is defending individual rights and the 2nd Amendment. That used to be called being a patriotic American, before y'all became major pussies and got scared at your own shadows.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:36 am to DisplacedBuckeye
How many rounds can be fired from a bumb stock chamber?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
Yeah use logic when your dumb arse wants more American deaths.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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Says the guy promoting government taking over our lives
An attempt to change the conversation to something not happening.
I'm not talking about gov taking over our lives. I'm talking about protected rights of the American Citizens vs non protected rights of illegals.
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You are the one discrediting the Constitution by claiming this "foreign invasion" makes it inadequate and old-fashioned. You're literally shitting on it out of fear.
No no. The Constitution is for the United States of America. Not United States of the World. There is no such document.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:39 am to momentoftruth87
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Yeah use logic when your dumb arse wants more American deaths.
MoT thinks firearms are dangerous.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:40 am to BCreed1
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No no. The Constitution is for the United States of America
So, guns are too dangerous for people not born here to own?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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Voting = specific to citizens
Slippery slope.
They are already voting in local.
They will either be granted citizenship or laws will be changed to allow them to vote.
What do you think is actually going to happen?? Democrats didn't bring them here for nothing.
The immigrants will serve their purpose.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
In the hands of illegals, yes.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
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So, guns are too dangerous for people not born here to own?
But not too dangerous to arm the citizens of Ukraine, per liberal theology.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:42 am to BCreed1
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An attempt to change the conversation to something not happening.
Eroding our rights and protections from government = promoting government taking over our lives.
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I'm not talking about gov taking over our lives.
If the 2A is eroded, then we just assume government won't take advantage of that? Why?
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No no. The Constitution is for the United States of America. Not United States of the World. There is no such document.
When do you think the first Supreme Court ruling stating that non-citizens were protected by the rights in our Constitution was issued?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:43 am to momentoftruth87
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In the hands of illegals, yes.
MoT is pro gun control because he thinks firearms are dangerous
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:44 am to i am dan
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The immigrants will serve their purpose.
If we're armed against tyranny, they will be on your side.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:47 am to i am dan
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They will either be granted citizenship or laws will be changed to allow them to vote.
If they're granted citizenship, then this argument is moot from all angles.
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What do you think is actually going to happen?
I don't know, but I'm not letting emotions take over my thinking.
I'm certainly not permitting emotions to lead me to support permitting government expansion in our lives. That's progressive-authoritarian bullshite.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
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"in this country."
In United States v. Jimenez-Shilon, the 11th Circuit rejected a Second Amendment challenge to 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5)(A), which prohibits firearm use or possession by any “alien” who is “illegally or unlawfully in the United States.” The holding itself is in some ways unremarkable – it joins every other federal circuit court that has considered the issue (now eight in all, according to the majority) in upholding § 922(g)(5) against challenges since Heller.
Judge Newsom relies entirely on a “text and history” approach. The “text” part of this analysis looks at the Second Amendment itself, and in this case, just one word: “people.” The opinion then delves into the question of whether noncitizens or foreigners fell within the Founding era’s public meaning of “the people,”.
Quoting a wide array of Founding-era documents and contemporary scholarship, the opinion concludes that “the people” included many noncitizens in most sections of the Constitution, but not when it is used in the Second Amendment, because the Amendment “codified” pre-existing common law rights, which excluded most noncitizens.
Again... you are applying protected rights of the American CITIZEN to illegals... That weakens the Constitution and higher courts have ruled many times on this.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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No, you are literally trying to apply the constitution to every human on the planet.
And that is defending individual rights and the 2nd Amendment.
No it's not. Like I said, at every turn you and Roger expose yourself as leftist who want to erode the USA (not WORLD) Constitution.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:52 am to momentoftruth87
It's sad watching libertarians talk about limiting the size of government. Our elected leaders laugh at you. You're playing by a rulebook that only exists in your minds. No one else is using it, and no one else cares about it any longer.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
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So, guns are too dangerous for people not born here to own?
Not the argument. It's a protected right of the USA Citizen. Should they become a citizen, then they are afforded that right.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:53 am to Pecker
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You're playing by a rulebook that only exists in your minds.
Weird argument to excuse more gun control.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:If you're not a citizen of this country and you get found with a gun, you should be hanged
Weird argument to excuse more gun control.
If you're an illegal immigrant and you're found in this country. You should be sent to a detention camp away from mainland America for processing. It sounds crazy but we could call it Manus Island or something
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 9:57 am
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