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re: Men vs. Women: Chess

Posted on 3/17/24 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 4:54 pm to
IIRC men and women have essentially the same average IQ but women's is more clustered around the mean, while men have more outliers at both ends of the distribution curve. More geniuses = more chess grandmasters.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 4:58 pm to
Thanks. Had to be a reason though neither got into it.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 5:03 pm to
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IIRC men and women have essentially the same average IQ but women's is more clustered around the mean, while men have more outliers at both ends of the distribution curve. More geniuses = more chess grandmasters.


Not just that but in general men are more competitive and endure stress better than women.
Posted by funnystuff
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 7:26 pm to
I would also suspect that the bell curve for dispassionate, pure strategic thinking for men is centered around a larger mean than for women (which seems to be a valuable evolved trait if you need to get the warriors in your tribe to take the resources of another), just as I suspect the bell curve for empathetic, compassionate thinking for women is centered around a larger mean than for men (which seems to be a valuable evolved trait if you want to successfully raise an infant into adulthood).

I might be wrong, but the hypothesis feels like it at least has internal logic to it. So if some of those evolved traits filter into making men better, at the extremes, than women at this one, small, meaningless game, then I can’t imagine why anyone would ever have a problem with it.

So of course, some nutjob will inevitably call the whole sport sexist
Posted by Jubalie Moe
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 7:49 pm to
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IIRC men and women have essentially the same average IQ but women's is more clustered around the mean, while men have more outliers at both ends of the distribution curve. More geniuses = more chess grandmasters.


I remember a Camille Paglia quote that said something like, “there will never be a female Mozart for the same reason there will never be a female Jack the Ripper.” Reasoning I guess being that men produce more extremes.
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