re: So how much more are we supposed to shut up and ignore?

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It is bitching and moaning when the same thing is posted over and over. I pretty much know what Roger is going to post before he posts it. My point is that we have heard the same arguments ad nauseam. I do not need the same talking point repeated to me 100's of times.

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And you'll hear the same arguments from both sides over and over again on a message board designed for the same arguments to be made over and over again. I mean, have you seen anything settled? Why would you expect that arguments/debates to end?

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I would fall somewhere in between "Trump superfan" and "Trump is way too much a big gov. liberal".

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That's fair.

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That being said, I also realize that a lot of the things that Trump was not able to accomplish in his first term was a product of the GOPe.

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And my POV is that he is establishment. I think there's a lot of evidence that supports my view.

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When you blame/accuse him of things that I see as BS I call you out on it and state my opinion. Usually that will be the end of it.

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That's fine. It's how you choose to engage. You like to state your opinion and that's it. But others like to argue, or in this context challenge your opinion. And it's fine if you don't want to engage in that, but to suggest that someone that does is a Biden voter or trying to get Dems elected is asinine. I'm not suggesting you do that (I can't remember and I'm not going to look at your post history), but a lot of Trump superfans do - like Bonds did a few posts up.