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re: JOHN CLAUSER, 2022 PHYSICS NOBEL PRIZE WINNER: "...there is No Climate Emergency"
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:57 am to GumboPot
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:57 am to GumboPot
Seems he needs to stick to quantum entanglement
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Before we get into the details of what is going here, let’s look at some of the stranger claims about climate science he has made:
The “IPCC and others” use a “cloud-free” Earth. [Odd claim, but simply not true].
“fluctuation[s] in the cloud cover of the earth that causes a sunlight reflectivity thermostat that controls the climate, control the temperature of the earth, and stabilize it very powerfully and very dramatically, a mechanism heretofore totally unnoticed.” [Clouds as a damping mechanism on climate change have been discussed in detail since the 1960s at least].
“The power in this thermostat in terms of what you can refer to as radiative forcing, this is how many watts per square meter of surface area are involved, and it is 200 times more powerful than the effect of CO2, and methane.” [This is at least a quantitative claim, see below for it’s lack of veracity].
“Interviewer: Are you suggesting that in none of these models the cloud cover is actually included? Dr. Clauser: Indeed” [Again, just not true].
“They really didn’t mention anything like this in the early IPCC reports.” [Simply false e.g. IPCC First Assessment Report (Chapter 3) from 1990].
“The two most recent IPCC reports did not discuss clouds” [Totally untrue].
“It’s [the albedo is] kept the same” [False – for instance here is a paper (Loeb et al, 2020) comparing the changes in albedo in models to the CERES observations].
“I haven’t talked to any of the modelers” [This is obvious!]
“The 40 models of the IPCC – most of which came from the Goddard Institute of Space Studies” [Where does this come from?]
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So where does this leave us? Effectively, we have an overconfident Nobel Prize winner, who hasn’t done their homework in an area outside their field, who makes very obvious errors, and whose fame is being capitalized on by the forces of denial.
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 11:01 am to DavidTheGnome
Yes he is crazy but the maggots instantly believe him because Nobel Prize!!! Lets only believe his Nobel Prize not even in the same field. All 250 other's saying he is crazy, well their's must be fake.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 11:19 am to DavidTheGnome
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the forces of denial.
Great with the loons use their loon language and identify themselves as loons.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 11:28 am to DavidTheGnome
Let me explain something about temperature in terms of energy and temperature change. There is the property of materials in physics called heat capacity in units of energy per unit mass-temperature. In other words, the amount of energy in joules to raise on kilogram of mass one degree kelvin. The lower the heat capacity the quicker the material will rise in temperature.
I know climate scientist like to tout the natural frequency of the CO2 molecule as aligning with infrared frequency thus CO2 continues to vibrate thus absorbing heat even during the nighttime hours but the fact is, CO2 can only absorbs as much heat as its heat capacity allows and regardless of electromagnetic radiation frequencies.
Here is a list of heat capacities of our main atmospheric gases:
Nitrogen: 1.02 kJ/kg-K (accounts for about 78% of air)
Oxygen: 0.919 kJ/kg-K (accounts for about 20.5% of air)
Argon: 0.52 kJ/kg-K (accounts for about 1% of air)
CO2: 0.844 kJ/kg-K (accounts for a bout 0.04% of air).
Remaining are trace gases (in fact CO2 is a trace gas).
What do those numbers mean?
The lower the heat capacity the less energy you need to raise on kilogram of those gases one degree.
Now when you add water vapor to the mix as in relative humidity the ability of the atmosphere to absorb energy and change temperature at a slower rate drastically changes.
Water vapor has a heat capacity of 1.93 kJ/kg-K. But that is not the only property about water that effects the atmosphere. It is also the only gas in the atmosphere that goes through three phase changes which also take a lot more energy. From solid to liquid it takes 334 kJ/kg and from liquid to vapor it takes 2460 kJ/kg.
(When water evaporates from your skin it is removing 2460 kJ/kg of heat...that why it feels cool).
Water in the atmosphere explains the difference in the climates between Huntsville, AL and Phoenix, AZ. Both cities are on the same latitude and receive the same incidence of sunlight. Both are at the same elevation. The only difference is water vapor concentration. Huntsville's higher water vapor concentration causes Huntsville to be more temperate than Phoenix. That is Huntsville has lower high temperatures and higher low temperatures.
Huntsville versus Phoenix climate can be DIRECTLY attributed to there local atmospheric heat capacities.
I know climate scientist like to tout the natural frequency of the CO2 molecule as aligning with infrared frequency thus CO2 continues to vibrate thus absorbing heat even during the nighttime hours but the fact is, CO2 can only absorbs as much heat as its heat capacity allows and regardless of electromagnetic radiation frequencies.
Here is a list of heat capacities of our main atmospheric gases:
Nitrogen: 1.02 kJ/kg-K (accounts for about 78% of air)
Oxygen: 0.919 kJ/kg-K (accounts for about 20.5% of air)
Argon: 0.52 kJ/kg-K (accounts for about 1% of air)
CO2: 0.844 kJ/kg-K (accounts for a bout 0.04% of air).
Remaining are trace gases (in fact CO2 is a trace gas).
What do those numbers mean?
The lower the heat capacity the less energy you need to raise on kilogram of those gases one degree.
Now when you add water vapor to the mix as in relative humidity the ability of the atmosphere to absorb energy and change temperature at a slower rate drastically changes.
Water vapor has a heat capacity of 1.93 kJ/kg-K. But that is not the only property about water that effects the atmosphere. It is also the only gas in the atmosphere that goes through three phase changes which also take a lot more energy. From solid to liquid it takes 334 kJ/kg and from liquid to vapor it takes 2460 kJ/kg.
(When water evaporates from your skin it is removing 2460 kJ/kg of heat...that why it feels cool).
Water in the atmosphere explains the difference in the climates between Huntsville, AL and Phoenix, AZ. Both cities are on the same latitude and receive the same incidence of sunlight. Both are at the same elevation. The only difference is water vapor concentration. Huntsville's higher water vapor concentration causes Huntsville to be more temperate than Phoenix. That is Huntsville has lower high temperatures and higher low temperatures.
Huntsville versus Phoenix climate can be DIRECTLY attributed to there local atmospheric heat capacities.
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 11:31 am
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