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re: How long will movie theaters survive?
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:34 am to Corinthians420
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:34 am to Corinthians420
quote:Hollywood is insular, Goober. Capitalism requires ample competition and less "rigging" the game.
That's how capitalism works.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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the only movie Ive seen in theaters in decades was Oppenheimer, and it was long and disappointing
We didn't see it in the theater but I didn't like it as much as most people seem to have either.
Yep. We have a 75" TV and a surround sound system. The experience at home is close enough that it's not worth dropping $50-70 to go to the movies.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:44 am to fallguy_1978
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We didn't see it in the theater but I didn't like it as much as most people seem to have either.
It was a drama. I cant say I learned much from it and it lasted way way too long.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:44 am to fallguy_1978
The last movie I paid to see was Predator back in 1987.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Hollywood is insular, Goober. Capitalism requires ample competition and less "rigging" the game.
I'm pretty sure they'll take anyone's money that wants to invest in a movie.
Independent films are definitely possible as well.
Reservoir Dogs was an independent film made for $3 million. There aren't any non-"leftists" that can afford that?
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 7:54 am
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:54 am to Corinthians420
The DEI shite in movies can be annoying, but I think there are other reasons for theaters not being packed, or else venture capitalists would be trying to capitalize on that void.
You can't tell me that all these folks are just passing up on an opportunity to make money if it were that easy.
You can't tell me that all these folks are just passing up on an opportunity to make money if it were that easy.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:56 am to Byrdybyrd05
Anything requiring the general public to gather and enjoy something together is slowly dying with the work from home generation.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:57 am to Byrdybyrd05
Regal just built and opened the largest movie theater in the nation by my house. It stays busy.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 8:34 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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What happened to films such as one flew over the cuckoos nest
Marginalizes the mentally ill. Can’t do that.
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green mile
Stereotypes blacks on death row. Can’t do that
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rain man,
Again. Marginalizes the mentally handicapped. Can’t do that.
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silence of the lambs, etc?
Are you kidding?? A tranny villain??!! Nope. DOA on the filmmaker’s desk.
This is what most of you folks wanted. Enjoy!
More shoot the mean white man or POC with a cape movies for summer again this year!! Have a blast!
Posted on 2/28/24 at 8:39 am to Byrdybyrd05
Give me some good Cosa Nostra movies and I'll go.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 8:41 am to Darth_Vader
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think it’s a good idea to shoehorn political messages into their movie. While political messaging in movies is nothing new, it use to at least be somewhat subtle.
We were just not as aware. It's always been there.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 8:43 am to Byrdybyrd05
I don’t see how they make it. But I’m pulling for em. About once a year I like to go and get a coke and popcorn for 39 dollars and watch a blockbuster
Posted on 2/28/24 at 8:50 am to CleverUserName
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Are you kidding?? A tranny villain??!! Nope. DOA on the filmmaker’s desk.
He was just in drag. That's all the rage right now
Posted on 2/28/24 at 8:51 am to Corinthians420
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He was just in drag. That's all the rage right now
Just among you progressives.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 8:51 am to Byrdybyrd05
Ehhh it depends. They will have to change some things up to continue to attract. They will be around for a while in the smaller cities.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 8:54 am to East Coast Band
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Every movie is a sequel and/or some stupid and predictable sci fi movie.
I've gotten to the point where even commercials for marvel/superhero movies irritate me now.
Add to this I don't see the allure of theaters at all anymore. Not with the insane amount of content available for streaming...on your couch, with your remote, snacks and booze.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:05 am to Byrdybyrd05
Movie theaters are facing a few big issues.
They are not as cheap as they used to be, so people don't just rush out to see a movie they aren't sure about. The theaters themselves make most of their money on snacks and drinks, so aren't actually doing that well when the tickets are $10-$12 each. And for that the experience isn't all that great. The chairs are usually less comfortable than your own couch. You can't control loud or obnoxious patrons making noise during the screening. The theaters themselves usually aren't the cleanest. And there has been some high profile shootings in movie theaters in the past decade.
Movies in general are becoming less original. Hollywood has focused more on sequels and crappy, woke remakes of old franchises. So the movie theaters have mostly bad product to offer. You know it's bad when they are screening Taylor Swift concerts and re-releasing movies like BTTF just to get people to come in and buy stale popcorn.
Streaming. A lot of movies get released to streaming services. NetFlix, AppleTV, Amazon, Hulu, etc. are putting out more content than ever. Not all of it is good, but you are more willing to try a new show or new movie when there are no incremental cost to you and you can turn it off whenever you want.
The next generation doesn't seem to give a shite about going to the movies. In some ways Gen Z is very pragmatic - to them the movie theater isn't a special or exciting place - so they aren't going to bring a date or some friends there just to see a crappy movie. Also they are they are kind of odd in how they communicate, date, and socialize already by living with a phone screen in front of them most of the time. They don't have fond memories of seeing their favorite film in the theater because Hollywood has put out mostly garbage for years now. They also spent 2+ years in high school where they had to "socially distance" themselves and going to the movies was something that people just didn't do as much.
If they somehow overcome all of the above, they'd still have the major issue of real estate. Movie Theaters generally take up a lot of expensive space. The equipment that goes into them are very expensive. It's not cheap to build or maintain one. The margins are likely not so think that operators are willing to take risks on new locations or invest in older locations - which means that movie theaters will slowly fade away like shopping malls.
They are not as cheap as they used to be, so people don't just rush out to see a movie they aren't sure about. The theaters themselves make most of their money on snacks and drinks, so aren't actually doing that well when the tickets are $10-$12 each. And for that the experience isn't all that great. The chairs are usually less comfortable than your own couch. You can't control loud or obnoxious patrons making noise during the screening. The theaters themselves usually aren't the cleanest. And there has been some high profile shootings in movie theaters in the past decade.
Movies in general are becoming less original. Hollywood has focused more on sequels and crappy, woke remakes of old franchises. So the movie theaters have mostly bad product to offer. You know it's bad when they are screening Taylor Swift concerts and re-releasing movies like BTTF just to get people to come in and buy stale popcorn.
Streaming. A lot of movies get released to streaming services. NetFlix, AppleTV, Amazon, Hulu, etc. are putting out more content than ever. Not all of it is good, but you are more willing to try a new show or new movie when there are no incremental cost to you and you can turn it off whenever you want.
The next generation doesn't seem to give a shite about going to the movies. In some ways Gen Z is very pragmatic - to them the movie theater isn't a special or exciting place - so they aren't going to bring a date or some friends there just to see a crappy movie. Also they are they are kind of odd in how they communicate, date, and socialize already by living with a phone screen in front of them most of the time. They don't have fond memories of seeing their favorite film in the theater because Hollywood has put out mostly garbage for years now. They also spent 2+ years in high school where they had to "socially distance" themselves and going to the movies was something that people just didn't do as much.
If they somehow overcome all of the above, they'd still have the major issue of real estate. Movie Theaters generally take up a lot of expensive space. The equipment that goes into them are very expensive. It's not cheap to build or maintain one. The margins are likely not so think that operators are willing to take risks on new locations or invest in older locations - which means that movie theaters will slowly fade away like shopping malls.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:09 am to Byrdybyrd05
Man I thought the Juban Tavern was going to be great but it’s nasty with terrible food. I haven’t been to a movie in over a year
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:15 am to Havoc
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Unfortunate consequence of Hollywood killing itself on a DEI sword.
You can't make a comedy these days.
There is a very narrow range of movie types that Hollywood is willing to make these days. And that limits the product that movie theaters can provide to patrons.
It's like what happens to Ford dealers when Ford Motor Company decides that pickup trucks are not politically correct anymore and starts phasing them out in favor of shitty new EV models that share the name of a legendary product from the past.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:17 am to Byrdybyrd05
I’ll tell you what I’d shell out a couple of dollars for:
A small-medium sized movie theater with a fancy restaurant where I could have a cocktail and eat good food with my friends and then sit for a CLASSIC movie on a big screen afterwards in spacious/comfy seating, but in a room with not a ton of seats packed in. Only popcorn and drinks allowed. Bring back the old classic movies everyone has loved forever and take my money. Phones go into lock pouches like they have at comedy shows.
I’d prefer that over the movie tavern style where everyone’s eating while watching a shitty modern movie while texting on their cellphones.
A small-medium sized movie theater with a fancy restaurant where I could have a cocktail and eat good food with my friends and then sit for a CLASSIC movie on a big screen afterwards in spacious/comfy seating, but in a room with not a ton of seats packed in. Only popcorn and drinks allowed. Bring back the old classic movies everyone has loved forever and take my money. Phones go into lock pouches like they have at comedy shows.
I’d prefer that over the movie tavern style where everyone’s eating while watching a shitty modern movie while texting on their cellphones.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 9:34 am
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