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re: HOA violation question - illegal sublet nearby

Posted on 2/27/24 at 6:50 am to
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6435 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 6:50 am to
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Your exceptionalism is exactly why HOAs were started and are still around. 30 people living in in a single family residence is a public safety issue.


Clearly the “30 person” line was hyperbole. And if that was the case, as you pointed out, there will likely be legal issues the police would sort out.

I took the op almost 4 pages, conveniently, to point out potential tangible HOA violations with them working on their cars, as opposed to the speculative ones he’s been pointing out. I say conveniently because i’m willing to bet he’s making them up as if they were true, they would be low hanging fruit that a “Fire and brimstone HOA President” would pick off.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7543 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 6:57 am to
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Secondly, what law are we ignoring? An HOA rule isn’t a law made by our lawmakers. So you’re stupid saying that.



In most instances they are far worse than a law passed by lawmakers...thats why they exist in the first place, to accomplish things that local government can't....like keeping garage doors shut, lawns mowed to exacting standards, garbage cans out of sight. The HOA can do things that the courts will enforce because membership is voluntary, you do not have to buy in the community, that the state can not enforce easily or at all. In most states they are unelected tyrants for the purpose of being unelected, unregulated tyrants.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7543 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:05 am to
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If you don't want rules for what you can do with your property outside of what is or isn't legal, that you shouldn't live in a neighborhood with an HOA.

You have to agree to abide by the HOA rules when you buy a property in a neighborhood with an HOA.

Otherwise, I'm with you. I also do not live in a place with an HOA.


The issue with HOAs ain't doing what you agreed to do...HOAs are a product of illegal processes meant to keep certain people out of certain neighborhoods. HOAs enforce rules based on the individuals involved and there is almost nothing that can be done about it in most states because people suffer from the idea that you agreed to do it. You did indeed agree to do it but it is entirely possible that resident A be fined so much for leaving their garage door open that they are forced to sell or worse where resident B can remove their garage door and have a man cave with a biker gang hanging out 7 nights a week without nary a letter from the HOA.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7543 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:07 am to
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I’d call the HOA daily until they enforced their bylaws.


Fantastic idea...and when they send you a fine for your garbage can being in the same places its always been you can feel good about them doing what they are being paid to do...
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7543 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:09 am to
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I’d be calling the police and ICE. I don’t want illegal men in my neighborhood if I have children.


You'd be wasting your time thank god. Police and ICE can't come investigate feelings...they are law enforcement agents. There has to be a violation of some sort. Being strange or not white is not, thank god, a crime which has been codified...it is illegal in reality but it is not written.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7543 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:13 am to
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This is the weirdest thread, especially for an OT which leans very heavily into the "mind your business" mentality.


This only applies to other folks minding their own business, not most of the Karens minding their own business. Its the same with all political issues...no one wants anyone telling them what to do but they love the thought of telling other people what to do. If a person wishes to be left alone and tend to their business themselves they owe it to the rest of us to allow us the same consideration. That ain't happening...Karen is going to Karen....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7543 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:18 am to
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It really sounds like some brown people moved in and these HOA karens are losing their minds and being racist as F.


The emergence of HOAs and similar property owner regulatory bodies began in response to the passage of the fair housing act. They were and are an ongoing attempt to keep out the "riff raff". HOAs by nature are systemic racism in action. I know, I know, in tinfoil hat world systemic racism does not exist unless of course white folks are being put upon but here in the real world it exists in numerous ways.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7543 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:21 am to
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This is why I hate Boomers and Gen X.


If you hate groups of people it is due to a lack of character in yourself, not the people in the group you hate. Hate is an emotion which you control, not someone else. It is usually tied directly to irrational fears you suffer from. It is part and parcel of human nature but so is violence and stealing and all manner of shite which is frowned upon in polite society...
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7543 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:22 am to
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Don't you know that if a person speaks Spanish, that means they are Mexican? All Mexicans are illegal.

Oh yeah, also, everything south of the southern US border is Mexico



And surprisingly Spain is also Mexico....
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6435 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:25 am to
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They were and are an ongoing attempt to keep out the "riff raff".


I absolutely agree. Is riff raff a race, though?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7543 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:31 am to
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I absolutely agree. Is riff raff a race, though?



Matter of perspective. They have morphed into keeping out boat and RV owners and people wont to leave their garage doors open longer than their neighbor thinks is appropriate. All manner of riff raff in the world...a lot like freedom what is one person's normal is another person's hell....all a matter of perspective and perspective is far more compelling than reality.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6435 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:44 am to
Pretty presumptuous of you to relate all riff raff to a certain race initially. HOA members have two things in common: like mindedness and they can afford to live there. Nothing to do with race. If you want to store an rv out front or leave your trash cans out, you absolutely can do that in any place you have where you didn’t specifically sign a contract an agree not to.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7543 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:36 am to
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Pretty presumptuous of you to relate all riff raff to a certain race initially. HOA members have two things in common: like mindedness and they can afford to live there. Nothing to do with race. If you want to store an rv out front or leave your trash cans out, you absolutely can do that in any place you have where you didn’t specifically sign a contract an agree not to.




I never related riff raff to any one race...but HOAs are a direct reaction of white property owners to the Fair Housing Act...I know nothing of the sort has ever happened in the US, that no legislation ever passed had unforeseen consequences unless of course those unforeseen consequences somehow impact the beholder negatively. The data is clear...HOAs and other autonomous groups of home owners came into being shortly after the Fair Housing Act made it a civil rights violation to prevent the purchase and use of real estate based on race....any race. As the fair housing act ramped up more and more HOAs and HOA type organizations ramped up at an even faster pace. These are simple numbers that are readily available. They were initially based on irrational fears in response to the fair housing act...they have since morphed into a broader keeping of the riff raff out. The fair housing act applied to ALL races of people, my friend, strange that you thought riff raff meant any certain race....speaks volumes about credibility though.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20504 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:42 am to
Stay vigilant baw. She may have MS13 living there
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6435 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:26 am to
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They were and are an ongoing attempt to keep out the "riff raff". HOAs by nature are systemic racism in action.


Kinda hard not to infer that you meant riff raff were a certain race when you place these two sentences next to each other.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 11:31 am
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5786 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:50 am to
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I absolutely agree. Is riff raff a race, though?


According to him it seems so.

Mowing grass, keeping up exterior of house, fence, and other items in yard, houses being single family homes, having private and paid for common areas including pools and basketball courts for neighborhood are likely also racist to him. I wonder how he feels about local noise ordinances or others ones that can end up being similarly restrictive if not more restrictive than HOA.

Maintaining or improving property value as well as schools are code words to him.

Thinking being trashy is engrained into a certain race’s DNA makes awgusta a miserable boy.

Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5786 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:57 am to
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because they're brown and may be here illegally, rumor has it.



This is typical leftist argument.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
3457 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:59 am to
Are they bad hombres?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5786 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 12:11 pm to
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Somebody else ease explain to me why the frick should it matter if my neighbor has 30 fricking people shacked up in their house? ITS THEIR HOUSE. it doesn't concern you one damn bit. God some of you people are pussies.


It brings down your neighbor’s property value and overloads streets, parking, and common areas in neighborhood and even local schools. In regards to HOA rules it’s also can go against what the owners signed and agreed to when buying house. Houses sold that way from the start and required to be part of selling house to anyone else later. Somehow it’s racist to expect someone to follow same rules everyone else has to follow and everyone agreed to when buying house in neighborhood. Or maybe some just think it’s racist to read contracts you sign.

Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35574 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 12:16 pm to
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What's your go-to here?



Not be a bitch and ask the homeowner what's going on.


I've let my neighbors watch me pick up their dog's shite from my yard and pile it in front of their door.

One neighbor had a son who put a snake in my mailbox. She was outside and watched as I threw it on her roof.


Reach down, see if you've got a pair, and go ask the 70 year old woman who is living with her.
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