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re: In just a few years, the average retiree will be receiving 37% more in SS than he paid in

Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:30 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69455 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:30 pm to
Please explain to me how a system can be self funding if it not only pays out to each individual what they paid in, but also pays out the hypothetical market return that individuals lost out on.

By definition, such a system would run out of money!
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4622 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:35 pm to
They are supposed to invest the contributions that's how.

Look, 7% return doubles your money on 7 years. SS fund is supposed to be separate and invested.

When I was your age, we didn't run big deficits.

How are you blaming this shite on us?

The government stole the money and now they pay ss out of the general fund.


This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 10:38 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124545 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:07 am to
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Please explain to me how a system can be self funding if it not only pays out to each individual what they paid in, but also pays out the hypothetical market return that individuals lost out on.
That "system" would be an IRA.

Want another irony?
SS payouts are taxed. Ponder that for a moment. If they weren't taxed, and payouts were reduced accordingly, we could significantly extend solvency. But once again, none of this is about the recipient "beneficiary" or even program solvency. It is a money grab. With our deficits, Uncle Sam needs a bigger borrow.

So the Feds will continue to tax SS with taxes which don't return to the SSTF. They go to the general fund just like the original SS contributions did, with nothing but an IOU in the SSTF to show for it.
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