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re: If you believe your rights come from God then you are a Christian Nationalist

Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:59 pm to
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Is that proof necessary for an objective morality? If so then we could agree morality might be/might not be objective? I think I could sorta meet you half way there.
I think you’ve ignored my original argument. The fact that people make moral arguments to begin with means morality is objective. And an objective morality has to have a source. I’m coming to the conclusion from the opposite side. Objective morality is proof for God, not the other way around.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:08 pm to
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The fact that people make moral arguments to begin with means morality is objective.


I would tweak that slightly to say that it means people believe and act as if morality is, at least in some cases, objective. Even those who claim it's not typically behave as if it is.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7416 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:10 pm to
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think you’ve ignored my original argument


Lol....I just realized that and just rephrase my question. Sorry..doing busy work while trying to have a discussion like this is not the best idea.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:13 pm to
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Objective morality is proof for God, not the other way around.


shite..you lost me again...
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:23 pm to
So you beleive a universal objective morality exist and humans are evolving towards an understanding of that morality...is that correct?

I'm trying to understand how you define the changes in what we view as moral and immoral. Thats why I say it's subjective. What word besides morality do you use? Does that make sense?
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 5:30 pm
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