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re: Texas AG Paxton sues Catholic charity for aiding and encouraging illegal immigration

Posted on 2/20/24 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by reddy tiger
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 9:44 pm to
Purported Christians supporting the punishing of a Christian church for following Christ’s example as it pertains to fellow Christians and refugees.

This board proves that shitty dumb people don’t understand themselves or the concept of logical consistency.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
9430 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 9:48 pm to
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Purported Christians supporting the punishing of a Christian church for following Christ’s example as it pertains to fellow Christians and refugees.

This board proves that shitty dumb people don’t understand themselves or the concept of logical consistency.


How many illegals have you put up in your house? Be specific with numbers.

Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13316 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 9:48 pm to
Purported Americans supporting criminals overrunning our country and punishing American citizens who’ve worked hard to build safe and secure communities, all the while claiming to support the best interests of Americans.

You prove that shitty dumb people don’t understand themselves or the concept of logical consistency.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44167 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 10:21 pm to
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Purported Christians supporting the punishing of a Christian church for following Christ’s example as it pertains to fellow Christians and refugees.

I knew this would be brought up, and it’s a fair point.


There’s little need to point out the irony of secularists and liberals who fail to consult the Bible in every other area of life, suddenly attempting to use God’s word to justify illegal immigration; the absurdity speaks for itself.


As for what the Bible says about illegal immigration … there are several Biblical examples that illustrate how a foreigner (individual or group) had to receive permission from the appropriate authority in a particular culture before settling. Even in Old Testament times, countries had borders that were protected and respected. Foreigners who wanted to reside in another country had to obtain permission.


Perhaps the best-known account relates to the Children of Israel entering Egypt. Genesis tells how during a time of famine in Canaan, the sons of Jacob did the natural thing under the circumstances—go to Egypt where the Nile kept the land fertile. Even though their brother Joseph was a high-ranking official who had recommended to Pharaoh that they be allowed to settle in Egypt, they were compelled to ask Pharaoh for permission:

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“And they said to Pharaoh, ‘Your servants are shepherds, as our fathers were.’ They said to Pharaoh, ‘We have come to sojourn in the land, for there is no pasture for your servants’ flocks, for the famine is severe in the land of Canaan. And now, please let your servants dwell in the land of Goshen.’ Then Pharaoh said to Joseph, ‘Your father and your brothers have come to you. The land of Egypt is before you. Settle your father and your brothers in the best of the land. Let them settle in the land of Goshen.’” (Genesis 47:3-6)



Multiple books and articles have been written on the subject of reconciling immigration policies with God’s word. The two are not mutually exclusive, as compassion doesn’t equate to anarchy.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37529 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:08 pm to
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Purported Christians supporting the punishing of a Christian church for following Christ’s example as it pertains to fellow Christians and refugees.

This board proves that shitty dumb people don’t understand themselves or the concept of logical consistency.


These aren't necessarily fellow Christians or refugees. But that doesn't matter anyway. They are breaking the law. And stealing resources/benefits once they get here. It's wrong.

What part of illegal do you not understand?

Jesus didn't commend people for breaking laws. There is nothing inherently immoral about opposing illegal immigration.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99798 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:53 am to
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Purported Christians supporting the punishing of a Christian church for following Christ’s example as it pertains to fellow Christians and refugees


What was Christ's example?

Be specific
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19164 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:22 am to
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Purported Christians supporting the punishing of a Christian church for following Christ’s example as it pertains to fellow Christians and refugees.


bullshite. Jesus never advocated for people to flaunt and flat out break the law. In fact he was very explicit about the subject.

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Romans 13:1-2 says: "Obey the government, for God is the One who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. So those who refuse to obey the law of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow."


There are many unjust laws on the books but when society decides as a whole to ignore the law, chaos is sure to follow. You only need to look at many of our big cities where state and local governments have decided certain criminal activity isn’t that big of a deal and turns a blind eye to it. What constitutes “theft” in certain places now has led to businesses fleeing because of the criminal activity it invited. Removing basic standards for public drug use, and public urination and defecation has turned cities like LA, San Fran and Portland into complete hellholes of massive homeless populations where open drug use, and shitting and pissing on the sidewalk is the norm. Willfully ignoring our immigration laws and flaunting them by invoking the name of Jesus has created a humanitarian crisis stretching multiple continents.

I absolutely reject this idea that willfully breaking the law is following Christ’s example.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12335 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:36 pm to
Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s and unto God that which is Gods. Christian charity is NOT protecting criminals.
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