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re: Biden voters
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:46 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:46 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Very illuminating!
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:46 pm to Cheese Grits
You still can't get it right.
lookit, this right here
I'm trying to help you.
If you can't do it just leave it alone, simple huh.
lookit, this right here
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please articulate why Biden’s policies are good for the country and why he should be re-elected because of said policies.
I'm trying to help you.
If you can't do it just leave it alone, simple huh.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:55 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Trying to help Biden voters:
1. How safely and effectively he withdraws us from foreign wars?
2. How he doesn’t enter us into new foreign wars?
3. Energy independence?
4. Safe and secure southern border?
5. Funding the WHO again
6. Pushing clot shot mandates for the winter of illness and death?
7. Having a plumber pay off loans for a lesbian’s degree in Women and Gender Studies?
8. Allowing Chinese spy balloons to travel our skies to help us study our weather
9. His policy of not being Trump?
1. How safely and effectively he withdraws us from foreign wars?
2. How he doesn’t enter us into new foreign wars?
3. Energy independence?
4. Safe and secure southern border?
5. Funding the WHO again
6. Pushing clot shot mandates for the winter of illness and death?
7. Having a plumber pay off loans for a lesbian’s degree in Women and Gender Studies?
8. Allowing Chinese spy balloons to travel our skies to help us study our weather
9. His policy of not being Trump?
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:57 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Apologies for not just using this board to troll. That is a young persons game and one I will never fully understand. Seems pointless.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:04 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Then you should be to articulate why it is you find Biden’s policies preferable. And do it without sky screaming about Trump.
I think if people were honest, Biden is not nearly as liberal as he's accused of being. Some of his biggest legislative wins of his presidency have technically been bipartisan. The infrastructure bill, the gun violence bill, the chips and science act, the inflation reduction act, etc. are all things that include items that both conservatives and liberals should be Ok with (but both sides are too busy sky screaming because it's not liberal enough or not conservative enough - or too liberal or too conservative). While none of these are slam dunk wins for either side, they were pragmatic victories that do more good than harm for the country.
Beyond what I feel are reasonable victories for any presidency, I also just have fundamental issues with Trump (and republicans in general) with regards to race, LGBTQIA rights, gun legislation, and reproductive rights. These are legitimate human rights and safety issues (although I know how you will characterize them) that frankly will prevent me from voting for any republican for the foreseeable future. As someone who is more centrist than leftist, I'm not on board with the Democratic party's anti-capitalist wing, but I can't ignore what I consider legitimate infringements on personal liberties.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:07 pm to thebigmuffaletta
How do you expect dead people to post an answer to your question?
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:08 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
quote:What does any of this have to do with the OP?
Trump will win. But then the price of groceries and housing and random stuff won't magically go back to 2019 prices, like so many people who are voting for Trump magically think they will.
Then the honeymoon will be over, and Trump will blame the Federal Reserve, the Deep State, the Swamp, the Cabal and whoever else for the cost of living magically not going back to 2019. Then Trump will double down and be extra bat shite crazy and all bets will be off.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:10 pm to MStant1
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As someone who is more centrist than leftist
None of what you posted that you support sounds centrist, you basically rattled off a laundry list of leftist causes.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:15 pm to Kcrad
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I'm trying to help you.
I appreciate that
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Biden’s policies are good for the country
I am saying not sure EITHER sides policies are good for the country, just good for a handful who profit from their sides policies.
I think I posted in this thread or another that I want a POTUS who has the #1 policy of going the other way on the debt. As since the 1980 election neither side has done this, or given us strong movement in this direction.
If this helps, could care less about abortion (either side) as the end result does not affect a high proportion of the US population (legal). I think there is a solution somewhere in the middle Congress could agree on during this session and funnel the time and money on a more pressing issue.
Could care less about gun control (either side) as the end result does not affect a high proportion of the US population (legal). I think there is a solution somewhere in the middle Congress could agree on during this session and funnel the time and money on a more pressing issue. If we redirected Gun Control $$$$ to mental health we could solve 80% if this issue at 20% of the current cost.
If this helps, I could care less about southern border (either side) as the end result does not affect a high proportion of the US population (legal). I think there is a solution somewhere in the middle Congress could agree on during this session and funnel the time and money on a more pressing issue. Policy should affect ALL points of entry into the USA and IKE showed 80% of the problem could be solved without wasting taxpayer $$$$ on walls and guards.
I do care about ...
SCOTUS that reflects citizens not corporations first
POTUS that kicks Red Commies in the arse
POTUS that kicks Dope Kingpins in the arse
POTUS that kicks Wall Street kingpins in the arse
SCOTUS that keeps their own house squeaky clean
POTUS that brings back the WPA
SCOTUS that brings back education not truant officers
CONGRESS that brings back "Fairness Doctrine"
CONGRESS that enforces News, not entertainment passing as News
CONGRESS that replaces PUBLIC CHOICE THEORY with GAME THEORY
Is that more helpful to your query?
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:16 pm to MStant1
So you’re a lefty. At least you posted Biden’s policies you agree with. Congrats!
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:19 pm to Cheese Grits
Damn dude! Which of these policies do you think are Biden’s which you agree with?
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:20 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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Trump will win. But then the price of groceries and housing and random stuff won't magically go back to 2019 prices, like so many people who are voting for Trump magically think they will.
Who are these people? You just made this up
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Then the honeymoon will be over, and Trump will blame the Federal Reserve, the Deep State, the Swamp, the Cabal and whoever else for the cost of living magically not going back to 2019. Then Trump will double down and be extra bat shite crazy and all bets will be off.
Yall always assume because of Trump's brash nature that he is stupid...when he is leagues smarter than leftists like you.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:20 pm to Cheese Grits
Could care less
I do care
Mean the same thing
I do care
Mean the same thing
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:24 pm to minister of truth
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Damn dude! Which of these policies do you think are Biden’s which you agree with?
He was arguing earlier that Trump is Putin’s puppet. He’s another TDS afflicted leftist trying to pretend he’s a centrist.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:26 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Interesting! Quite a few present themselves as “centrists“ or “independents“
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:28 pm to thebigmuffaletta
And the “Putin’s puppet“ is a direct result of being bombarded with media propaganda
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:28 pm to minister of truth
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Interesting! Quite a few present themselves as “centrists“ or “independents“
Four pages in and the only response we’ve had that even begins to address the question in the OP is a leftist rattling off a laundry list of leftist causes he supports: LGBT, gun control, abortion.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:34 pm to tigerlion
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Trying to help AMERICAN voters:
FIFY
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1. How safely and effectively he withdraws us from foreign wars?
2. How he doesn’t enter us into new foreign wars?
Same issue, short answer is folks behind the scene actually good at foreign policy like Nixon and Carter had. You are not going to get effective policy in a person who has only 4 or 8 years to enable it. You need bi partisan with 25 - 50 year window to get this done. Also, we need to quit training the folks who later attack us like Osama (CIA trained)
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3. Energy independence?
Started in the 70's with Nixon (R) / Ford (R) / Carter (D) then killed by Ronnie when he got in office
We are actually energy independent (among the Americas) but buy Middle East oil and ship American oil to Asia for the extra profit of a few large oil companies.
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4. Safe and secure southern border?
I would include all points of entry into the USA and update the "Wetback" policy of IKE
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5. Funding the WHO again
Are they still together? Are all of them still alive?
(just kidding)
Lots of global issues to attack but charity begins at home and a focus on local and regional usually is better for the average citizen then national and international (just less profitable for some of the largest corporations on the earth)
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6. Pushing clot shot mandates for the winter of illness and death?
I grew up with family elders who lived the Spanish Flu firsthand. Be decisive! Strike back early and mean it.
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7. Having a plumber pay off loans for a lesbian’s degree in Women and Gender Studies?
Bring back the WPA so we have gay and straight plumbers who are actually useful to the society. Since 1980 name me one industry that has raised prices 6% to 12% a year every year and did not draw fire from either party? Look at Berea College and why more higher education institutions do not follow their model
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8. Allowing Chinese spy balloons to travel our skies to help us study our weather
Screw the Red Asians, support the Americas and White Asians instead
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9. His policy of not being Trump?
DJT is a film flam man, not a POTUS
JRB is a lifelong bureaucrat, not a POTUS
Time to dump BOTH!
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:36 pm to Cheese Grits
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DJT is a film flam man, not a POTUS JRB is a lifelong bureaucrat, not a POTUS
Time to live in reality
These are your choices. Which one of these two are preferable to you given the choice?
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:36 pm to minister of truth
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Which of these policies do you think are Biden’s which you agree with?
I am saying I have trouble with most of the "hot button" issues of either side and think NEITHER side will attack the debt, which is probably the most dangerous to the country and the bulk of its citizens. Is this hard to understand?
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