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re: Pope Denounces ‘Hypocrisy’ of Those Who Criticize LGBT Blessings

Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:33 pm to
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But thinking the document was a disaster is very different from thinking the Pope has changed Church teaching that homosexuality is a sin, which many people think he has.


You are far more generous in your assessment of this Jesuit Pope’s agenda than I.

I myself once gave him the benefit of the doubt and argued that though his personal inclination was to present matters of faith in shades of gray, I took him at his word that his goal was simply to make sure the Church door was opened to all:

Pope Francis Apologizes That Amazon Synod ‘Pachamama’ Was Thrown Into Tiber River




Yet Pope Francis’ continual reliance upon solipsistic casuistry to defend his sloppily-worded pronouncements and his equivocal statements on questions of morality and faith led me to question if he harbored ulterior motives beyond mere inclusion.

More importantly, his vindictive spirit when addressing criticism of the ambiguity that is inherent to his statements has brought me to a different and more malicious conclusion.

Ambiguous words lend themselves to different interpretations and conclusions depending upon who is reading them and this thus opens the door to moral relevancy, which is diametrically opposed to Christ-like inclusion.

As Cardinal Müller indicates, when it comes to matters of mortal sin, we have no choice as faithful Catholics but to unequivocally proclaim the Catechism in bold and primary colors:

….I think with all these interviews and interpretations of the interpretation of interpretations, things are not getting better. Go back to the clarity of the word of God, and what is said in the Catechism, and not this bowing down to this absolutely wrong LGBT and woke ideology. That is not modern; that is a falling back to the old paganism.





This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 4:37 pm
Posted by CatholicLSUDude
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:10 pm to
Most of this is fair to discuss, and I'd probably agree with you on many points (though I think you've fallen a bit into the conspiratorial narrative pushed by protestants and sedevacantists). My main concern, again, is pointing out for this board that Francis has not changed the Church's teachings on homosexuality or marriage, and he's clearly stated that's not what he's trying to do. That's the piece that concerns me most, and it should a focal point for Catholics on this particular forum since so many people here are poorly informed about how Church teaching works and what the document actually says.
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 4:49 pm to
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More importantly, his vindictive spirit when addressing criticism of the ambiguity that is inherent to his statements has brought me to a different and more malicious conclusion.


It's unavoidable. There is no "benefit of the doubt" to give this guy.

By definition, a "Vicar" of Christ" = "Earthly Representative of Christ".

Francis is the antithesis of Jesus Christ -- which makes him popular with those who do not abide in His Gospel, Word and Laws. (coincidentally the definition of "Heretic".)
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