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re: Jennifer Crumbly (school shooter mom) verdict in: Guilty of involuntary manslaughter
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:49 pm to Tr33fiddy
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:49 pm to Tr33fiddy
So I buy my son a truck. He has a mental break one day and drives through a parade route and kills people. I’m now liable for negligent homicide?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:55 pm to Scooby
quote:You can’t be charged, but you can certainly be sued if the insurance is in your name.
So I buy my son a truck. He has a mental break one day and drives through a parade route and kills people. I’m now liable for negligent homicide?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:55 pm to Scooby
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So I buy my son a truck. He has a mental break one day and drives through a parade route and kills people. I’m now liable for negligent homicide?
I suppose part of the reasoning for charging her, and not you in your example, is he was 16 at the time of the shooting. Does State law allow him to own the gun, or is it technically the parents gun? She also testified that she did not believe it was her responsibility to ensure the gun was properly stored and locked away, that was her husband's job. Those 2 facts could have been enough to have some jurors leaning towards a guilty verdict. Then add the fact that the school tried to get one of the parents to pick him up before the shooting, but she didn't have time for it and needed to go to work; that's pretty damning.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 3:26 pm to Scooby
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So I buy my son a truck. He has a mental break one day and drives through a parade route and kills people. I’m now liable for negligent homicide?
Did you break multiple laws to give your son that truck? Because that’s a huge part of the legal issue here.
Mother gave cash to father to purchase a gun, with the intent to circumvent laws prohibiting the kid to buy that type of gun till 21.
This wasn’t a hunting rifle or something.
I mean….not really sure I see any case where it’s a good idea to give a kid in school a handgun. ESPECIALLY if he is in a bullying environment. There is literally no scenario there with a good outcome.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:12 pm to Scooby
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So I buy my son a truck. He has a mental break one day and drives through a parade route and kills people. I’m now liable for negligent homicide?
If I'm called to school b/c my kid is drawing pictures of himself plowing over people in the truck I bought him I sure as shite am not going to let him still have access to it until he's seen a mental health professional several times.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:27 am to Scooby
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So I buy my son a truck. He has a mental break one day and drives through a parade route and kills people. I’m now liable for negligent homicide?
More like you buying your son alcohol and then he kills someone’s while driving drunk.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 4:48 am to Scooby
quote:If he spent the six months prior to your purchase of the truck communicating to you that he was plagued with hallucinations of being surrounded by literal demons and struggling with thoughts of suicide which you blew off,
So I buy my son a truck. He has a mental break one day and drives through a parade route and kills people. I’m now liable for negligent homicide?
If he requested mental health which you ignored,
If you knew all this prior to buying him the truck in a state that he was not legally old enough to operate it in public without adult supervision and also failed to secure it when you were not supervising him,
If you decided to leave him home alone every night with access to the truck while you were out fricking Jody,
And finally, if an outside party called you prior to the parade to show you a picture he drew of himself mowing down people at the parade in the truck you bought him and you didn't even bother to tell them that your 15 year old actually owns a truck just like the one in his picture and allow him to go ahead and drive to that parade,
If all that...
I dunno. maybe. I definitely wouldn't be shocked if the state had a few questions for you.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:10 am to Scooby
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So I buy my son a truck. He has a mental break one day and drives through a parade route and kills people. I’m now liable for negligent homicide?
If he is a minor and its registered in your name you are certainly subject to civil litigation even if he just makes a dumb mistake or possibly even if it isn't his fault.
I do not see how this woman was convicted but it will not be surprising when someone is convicted of a similar charge when their gun was stolen. At some point the choice for most people is going to be "own a gun or have a homeowners policy that doesn't bankrupt you".
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