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re: Zion is closer to being right than you think.
Posted on 2/3/24 at 8:18 pm to AboveTheRim
Posted on 2/3/24 at 8:18 pm to AboveTheRim
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Ppl that lead their teams to titles don’t have the”issues” Zion has had since becoming a pro. If I’m sticking to the on court stuff . He is not a leader . He has not improved his skill set . He cannot get or stay in shape. He does not give consistent effort. He doesn’t do the little things . I don’t care how talented someone is . If you don’t do those things you’ll never reach the peak . He is a very good player and will likely stay that until his body quits on him which seems like it will happen sooner than it should .
You could have said the same thing about Shaquille O'Neal. How did that workout for the Magic? It takes time. MJ was 29 before he won a title.
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Posted on 2/3/24 at 8:42 pm to six4lsu
There is still some % chance Zion grows up and becomes a top 5 player/ someone that can win you a championship.
Vs.
Trading him for assets without that star potential and never winning anything.
I'll take a maybe over a never.
Vs.
Trading him for assets without that star potential and never winning anything.
I'll take a maybe over a never.
Posted on 2/3/24 at 9:07 pm to six4lsu
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Ppl that lead their teams to titles don’t have the”issues” Zion has had since becoming a pro. If I’m sticking to the on court stuff . He is not a leader . He has not improved his skill set . He cannot get or stay in shape. He does not give consistent effort. He doesn’t do the little things . I don’t care how talented someone is . If you don’t do those things you’ll never reach the peak . He is a very good player and will likely stay that until his body quits on him which seems like it will happen sooner than it should .
You could have said the same thing about Shaquille O'Neal. How did that workout for the Magic? It takes time.
In four seasons with the Magic, shaq averaged 74 games a season, 27.2 points, 12.5 rebs, and took the Magic to the finals.
We are in season five of Zion now. He’s played a total of 153 games, is averaging 24.9 and 6.6. He’s never played in a playoff game.
You can’t say any of the same things about Shaq that we are saying about Zion.
That said - trading Zion right now is dumb given his contract and potential.
Posted on 2/3/24 at 9:58 pm to six4lsu
quote:All those dudes improved big time from year 1 to year 5, and all those dudes were legit top 5 or 3 dudes in the NBA by year 5.
You could have said the same thing about Shaquille O'Neal. How did that workout for the Magic? It takes time. MJ was 29 before he won a title.
Zion hasn't improved, he's actually declined and is worse than year 2 Zion, and he's also top 30 ish in the NBA.
So those comparisons don't really fit.
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