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re: Dejounte Murray as a potential trade target

Posted on 1/30/24 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 1/30/24 at 4:30 pm to
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I didn't mean in it a hateful way, just simply that anyone who's played sports would never expect someone like BI to just default to #2. Not saying he would never, but someone has to take it from him, and Zion doesn't seem to want to.


I know you didn’t but to act like this never happens in sports and only people who play high level sports understand this is incorrect. It was well known that when Shaq came to Miami he deferred to Dwade; both Wade and Bosh later on deferred to Bron; KD deferred to it being Stephs team in Golden State; Dame is deferring to Giannis. Its what good teams do- no one needs to take anything; smart teams who are actively trying to win, including the players figure out whats best for the team- happens all the time in sports. The immature teams, like our pelicans, have these constant issues on who’s going to take it or who wants to be number one. Its a lack of experience and immaturity on our part especially regarding our two stars.

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NO. i'm not saying he deserves it, i'm saying it's being thrust upon him b/c the person that should be taking that burden isn't. I was simply pointing out what Zion doesn't do off the court affects what happens on the court. ANd Zions play on teh court in the clutch has been terrible, much like everyone on the team. DId you know Zion is shooting 50% from the line in the clutch, on top of the fact that he's one of the most turnover prone player in the league in the clutch. You are right, your play on the court determines it more than anything, and it's obvious Zion isnt' ready for it.


Ok agree here.

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Where the hell is this sentiment comign from? No one on the team liked him. If anythign ZIon disliked him the most from what i remember. He was a disaster from the get go.


Its well known Zion still likes SVG. It was reported the main players who had issues were BI and Josh Hart. This is pretty well known and reported.

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You're not getting what i'm saying. At no point have i ever said anything close to that. "BI saving his arse"? I DON'T WANT BI TO BE THE #1 OPTION. It's quite clear that the last shot should be created by either Zion, CJ or BI. There's no one else on the team that feels like they should take that roll but those 3, and CJ knows it should be BI or Zion. the coaching plays a big roll in it, but at the end of the day it ends up just being a 1 on 1 thing, and if Zion just said frick it and went get the ball, then they'd give him the ball. They are literally all waiting for it to happen.


Agree here as well.

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c'mon man. BI deserves tons of blame as well.


Ok just making sure.

Zion deserves a lot of blame. But my thing is so do BI, the coaches and this organization. They have completed fricked this thing up. Its lack of experience by both coaches and star players on how to handle this situation. To be fair Zion is fairly young but he has severe immaturity issues and BI Im not sure is much better- the IST game against the Lakers was a perfect example.




Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:16 am to
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I know you didn’t but to act like this never happens in sports and only people who play high level sports understand this is incorrect. It was well known that when Shaq came to Miami he deferred to Dwade; both Wade and Bosh later on deferred to Bron; KD deferred to it being Stephs team in Golden State;


What he's talking about is KD's time in OKC when he'd hide in big playoff moments and would become the 2/3 and hide in the corner.
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