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Preservation of slavery was clearly the cause for secession. The Articles of Secession are remarkably clear, and they are written by the people who decided to secede. There's no hidden agenda or propaganda.

i'll never defend the idea of slavery but "preservation of slavery" is always a broad scope and dog whistling for the North saying "we'd like to take a major part of your income and (ill begotten via the 3/5 compromise) political power so that the north has power financially and politically over the south."

slavery was terrible full stop and i'm glad it's gone, but the north wanted to to cripple the south for politics and that's fairly well documented more than their concern for slaves.

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Posted by Salviati

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Posted on 1/22/24 at 1:41 pm to 3nOut

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"preservation of slavery" is always a broad scope and dog whistling for the North saying "we'd like to take a major part of your income and (ill begotten via the 3/5 compromise) political power so that the north has power financially and politically over the south."

This looks like reasons why slaveholding states wanted to keep slavery intact. I don't disagree that these are reasons why southern states chose secession. But it does mean slavery caused secession. BTW - Slaves were 3/5 but freed slaves are 5/5; thus, more political power if slaves were free.

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the north wanted to to cripple the south for politics and that's fairly well documented more than their concern for slaves.

Assuming without conceding that this is true, the Articles of Secession make barely any reference to it. What they do reference, and clearly do so, is preservation of slavery.

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