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re: Baldwin charged again
Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:05 am to 632627
Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:05 am to 632627
Here’s a link to the industry guidelines for handling of firearms on set.
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Some pertinent points:
‘’ No one shall be issued a firearm unless they have been trained in the safe handling, use, proper firing procedures, and proper use of all mechanical safety devices for each type of firearm. If there is any uncertainty as to the qualifications of the person who will use the firearm, the Production, in consultation with the Property Master, shall determine if additional training is required and shall ensure adequate time is provided for such training.
All cast and crew who are in proximity to working firearms should be trained about safe zones and about the proper conduct of personnel who will be present near firearms. This training can be accomplished through the safety meeting or by other means as determined by Production Management.’’
“Whenever the Property Master gives a firearm to a performer, the Property Master shall advise the performer of the type of blank or dummy round being used and afford the performer, cast, and crew the supervised opportunity to verify the same.”
“ Anyone handling the firearm will refrain from pointing a firearm at any person, including themselves. If it is necessary to aim a firearm at another person on camera, the Property Master will be consulted to determine available options. Remember: a firearm, including one loaded with blanks, can inflict severe damage to anything/anyone at which/to whom the firearm is pointed”
In light of these industry procedures, I don’t see how anyone can come to the conclusion other than involuntary manslaughter for Baldwin.
- he’s been in the industry for decades, he’s been in other films with guns. Therefore he is knowledgeable of what the procedures are
- as an actor, he should have been trained on how to use the gun safely in the movie
- as a producer, he is responsible for ensuring that training is carried out
- Baldwin is trained to know that the prop master has to tell him how the gun is loaded, and that he should ask the prop master to show him that it is loaded correctly with the correct ammo
- Baldwin is trained to know not to point a gun directly at someone because a gun with blanks can still go damage. If a shot requires it, the Propmaster should be consulted to ensure additional measures are put in place.
Bottom line, Baldwin was performing an inherently dangerous act which is pointing a gun at someone, and he did not exercise due care when he did that as he ignored industry processes. That equals involuntary manslaughter
LINK /
Some pertinent points:
‘’ No one shall be issued a firearm unless they have been trained in the safe handling, use, proper firing procedures, and proper use of all mechanical safety devices for each type of firearm. If there is any uncertainty as to the qualifications of the person who will use the firearm, the Production, in consultation with the Property Master, shall determine if additional training is required and shall ensure adequate time is provided for such training.
All cast and crew who are in proximity to working firearms should be trained about safe zones and about the proper conduct of personnel who will be present near firearms. This training can be accomplished through the safety meeting or by other means as determined by Production Management.’’
“Whenever the Property Master gives a firearm to a performer, the Property Master shall advise the performer of the type of blank or dummy round being used and afford the performer, cast, and crew the supervised opportunity to verify the same.”
“ Anyone handling the firearm will refrain from pointing a firearm at any person, including themselves. If it is necessary to aim a firearm at another person on camera, the Property Master will be consulted to determine available options. Remember: a firearm, including one loaded with blanks, can inflict severe damage to anything/anyone at which/to whom the firearm is pointed”
In light of these industry procedures, I don’t see how anyone can come to the conclusion other than involuntary manslaughter for Baldwin.
- he’s been in the industry for decades, he’s been in other films with guns. Therefore he is knowledgeable of what the procedures are
- as an actor, he should have been trained on how to use the gun safely in the movie
- as a producer, he is responsible for ensuring that training is carried out
- Baldwin is trained to know that the prop master has to tell him how the gun is loaded, and that he should ask the prop master to show him that it is loaded correctly with the correct ammo
- Baldwin is trained to know not to point a gun directly at someone because a gun with blanks can still go damage. If a shot requires it, the Propmaster should be consulted to ensure additional measures are put in place.
Bottom line, Baldwin was performing an inherently dangerous act which is pointing a gun at someone, and he did not exercise due care when he did that as he ignored industry processes. That equals involuntary manslaughter
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:22 pm to BradBallard
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“Whenever the Property Master gives a firearm to a performer, the Property Master shall advise the performer of the type of blank or dummy round being used and afford the performer, cast, and crew the supervised opportunity to verify the same.”
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Remember: a firearm, including one loaded with blanks, can inflict severe damage
This is where everything goes sideways.
States the Property Master or Armorer is supposed to advise what type of round, including dummy or blank, is in use.
Far as I've discovered, it wasn't supposed to be even blanks at that point. Either dummy rounds, or empty cylinder.
It CLEARLY wasn't.
So my question in all this here- what about the rest of the dummy rounds? I'm on the assumption that someone at some point eyeballed, and saw "not blanks"... and wrongfully assumed dummy rounds. (We may not have even got that far)
Were live rounds mixed into the dummy round supply, and accidentally loaded into the gun? Or was the gun not even checked? Seems like that would be a key point to determine, when you START investigating this incident.
Either way indicates a serious breach of protocol on chain of custody of the guns.
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