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re: American Nightmare — Netflix documentary

Posted on 1/20/24 at 7:58 am to
Posted by pwejr88
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Posted on 1/20/24 at 7:58 am to
I saw this last night. What a wild story.
And they never cleared up why Andrea was the target. Only because Muller didn’t say? Please. Shows Sesma was absolutely involved because we was/had dated her.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:09 am to
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And they never cleared up why Andrea was the target.


They never clearly spelled it out but I think Muller's M.O. was simply to identify a random target he was attracted to and stalk them. The other victims said he knew their name and other stuff about them. And they talked about the peeping Tom cases in the area where someone was hiding in bushes and taking photos. Also addresses in his car GPS. This wasn't an impulse case.

Some of these guys enjoy the "hunt" more than the kill. It makes them feel smart, talented and successful. It's an ego trip, especially for someone who is a failure at life.

That's probably why he was sending information and photos to that crime reporter. It bothered him that his master plan was being casually dismissed as a hoax. And it probably bothered him that his cherished trophy - that he had personally selected as special - was being derided as awful even despite the fact that he grabbed the wrong girl.

I'm glad they caught him because this guy probably would have graduated to serial killing. Lots of them start off with small thrill seeking deviant behavior like Peeping Tom, shoplifting or starting fires before seeking out a bigger rush and reward on the psychopath ladder.

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Sesma was absolutely involved because we was/had dated her.


I'm a little skeptical of this claim. It's obviously a conflict of interest and he should have removed himself from the case but the documentary was a little too vague about his involvement in the investigation. And "dating" in the modern age is not what it was in the past. It's an online hookup culture where people spin around the dating site carousel. Did they have a romantic relationship or was she just some random skank he swiped on Tinder one night? I feel like if there was more to that angle, Netflix would have played it up hard. But they don't do objectivity well.

And that Andrea girl was made it out to be sinister despite the fact that she was probably just an innocent victim who dodged a bullet. Also, dollars to donuts the perfect boyfriend (now husband) was going back to that well and cheating (not just emotionally) with his ex. That's probably why Muller expected her there. Again, Netflix glossed over that angle.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 9:50 pm to
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And they never cleared up why Andrea was the target. Only because Muller didn’t say?


Little late to the thread but just watched this.

Muller lived on the island at one point. Near the victims home. The college kids knew him as the peeping tom or "creeper" and said he was ex military.

Muller obviously knew the fiance and Aaron from his time living on the Island.
Muller later moved to the wooded area, you see in the doc, and went back to the island to kidnap Aaron's fiance but they had already split up, unbeknownst to Muller, so he took Denise instead.

The fact that they never looked into the other, allegedly kidnappers is insane but par for the course for this case. Muller says they were college friends and ex marines. Now wether they actually existed or Muller made the whole thing up to rape Denise again we may never know.


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