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Tiger Stadium grass

Posted on 12/11/08 at 9:22 am
Posted by mikethetiger
Member since Nov 2004
1879 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 9:22 am
Here is an article talking about the condition of the field this year.

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Ronnie Halliburton, director of athletic facilities and grounds, said the wear-and-tear is linked to the grass' youth, considering it was planted in June and did not have a full-growing season to gain optimum health.

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The staff remains optimistic the young Bermuda grass will recover in the off-season and be a picture of health by August. But with the construction of the east upper deck and renovation of the westside upper deck during the past decade, the field does not receive as much sunlight as it did in past years.

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Halliburton said he is not opposed to artificial turf, especially given the advancements in materials available. But he describes the cost as "astronomical" - estimating a price tag upwards of $1 million.
Posted by pittmanmt
Colorado Springs
Member since Dec 2008
634 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 9:24 am to
they need to install it and move on our field is a joke
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 9:27 am to
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Halliburton said he is not opposed to artificial turf, especially given the advancements in materials available. But he describes the cost as "astronomical" - estimating a price tag upwards of $1 million.


I don't give a frick how much it costs. The field that the Baltimore Ravens have is what I wish we'd get. The amount of speed we'll have the next few years deserves a fast track to showcase it.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 9:28 am to
Not saying I'd want artificial turf but if high schools can afford it I'd think LSU could too.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80598 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 9:29 am to
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I don't give a frick how much it costs. The field that the Baltimore Ravens have is what I wish we'd get. The amount of speed we'll have the next few years deserves a fast track to showcase it.



Those fields are a lot hotter than grass. How long until a player has a heat stroke during a game in tiger stadium ?
Posted by BAMBAM
Biloxi, MS
Member since Mar 2008
2525 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 9:33 am to
The cost is offset by redoing the field every year. It costs approx. 1 million dollars.

We have it in the practice facility now. Why couldn't we afford it on the field????

I think one of the biggest reasons is that people would freak out that the turf isn't "natural"

Also I know that the field gets really hot during the day games. It's one of the draw backs of the material.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 9:36 am to
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Those fields are a lot hotter than grass. How long until a player has a heat stroke during a game in tiger stadium ?


The only ones that get too hot are at high schools and small stadiums that just throw some field turf over some mud and call it a day. The more sophisticated fields have cooling systems under the field for this very reason.
Posted by BAMBAM
Biloxi, MS
Member since Mar 2008
2525 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 9:39 am to
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The only ones that get too hot are at high schools and small stadiums that just throw some field turf over some mud and call it a day. The more sophisticated fields have cooling systems under the field for this very reason.


It really wouldn't be that hard to do that at LSU considering the stadium is about 200 feet from the cooling towers. It'd be really easy to tap into the chilled water system and maybe add another chiller if they needed it.
Posted by mikethetiger
Member since Nov 2004
1879 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 9:41 am to
Field Turf definitely has it's drawbacks, mainly from heat. Here is a study done by BYU a few years back:

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Shortly after the Field Turf was installed football camps were started. The coaches noticed the surface of the synthetic turf was very hot. One of the coaches got blisters on the bottom of his feet through his tennis shoes.


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The results of the preliminary study are shocking. The surface temperature of the synthetic turf was 37º F higher than asphalt and 86.5º F hotter than natural turf. Two inches below the synthetic turf surface was 28.5º F hotter than natural turf at the surface. Irrigation of the synthetic turf had a significant result cooling the surface from 174º F to 85º F but after five minutes the temperature rebounded to 120º F. The temperature rebuilt to 164º F after only twenty minutes.


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A budget comparison was made using actual dollars spent and for every dollar spent on the A.T. maintenance one dollar and thirty cents was spent on the natural turf (N.T.) practice field. While construction costs are very unbalanced, for every dollar spent on the N.T. eleven dollars and seventy-seven dollars were spent on the A.T.


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Artificial turf surfaces have their place in the turf industry. They can work in environments where grass will not grow and are marginal. However, they are costly and not maintenance free. It is important to take all the factors in to consideration before making a large investment.


Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 10:06 am to
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Field Turf definitely has it's drawbacks, mainly from heat. Here is a study done by BYU a few years back:


The advancements in field turf have been ridiculous in the past few years and there are very efficient cooling systems now so that should not be an excuse.
Posted by TexTiga
SugarLand , Tx
Member since Oct 2007
2548 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 10:14 am to
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they need to install it and move on our field is a joke


The Freakin frozen tundra of Lambeau Field looked better last weekend. It was 3 degrees !
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134140 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 10:14 am to
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I don't give a frick how much it costs.
I'm sure the athletic department would welcome your donation to buy the turf.
Posted by lsuougel
lafayette
Member since Nov 2008
3136 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 10:17 am to
New Turf = Higher Ticket prices. No thank you.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
87740 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Ronnie Halliburton, director of athletic facilities and grounds, said the wear-and-tear is linked to the grass' youth, considering it was planted in June and did not have a full-growing season to gain optimum health.



excuses, excuses, excuses.
Posted by LSULaw2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1735 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 10:21 am to
McNeese State just got turf last off season. An alum donated the money and I believe it was around a million dollars.

Given that LSU Football is one of around 10 programs that has revenues of over 20 million (after expenses) a year, and with the money that TAF brings in, money should not be an issue for installing turf. If they really wanted it, they would have it.
Posted by NETigerfan
In Big Red Country
Member since Nov 2008
70 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 10:27 am to
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Also I know that the field gets really hot during the day games. It's one of the draw backs of the material.


Then this would mean we need to play more night games in Tiger stadium, like we use to up til this year.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56431 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 10:31 am to
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Halliburton said he is not opposed to artificial turf, especially given the advancements in materials available. But he describes the cost as "astronomical" - estimating a price tag upwards of $1 million


Chump change for a 51 million dollar a year program
Posted by Malaysian Tiger
Manila
Member since May 2008
4732 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 10:33 am to
The Momentum Field Turf is in the Indoor Practice Facility and I did not hear any bitching about the cost when that was done.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 11:11 am to
Tiger Stadium should always be grass. Football is meant to be played on grass, mud, etc. I hate this turf bullshite.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 12/11/08 at 11:17 am to
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Tiger Stadium should always be grass. Football is meant to be played on grass, mud, etc. I hate this turf bullshite.


Football in 1958 was meant to be played on grass. With all the new offenses and "track-like" athletes I don't really see a problem giving yourself whatever advantages you can. Speed + turf = deadly.
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