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re: Why can't Republicans unite?

Posted on 1/13/24 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 1/13/24 at 10:13 pm to
So either we lose both ways or you acknowledge that we won with conservative populism and, without Covid, are enjoying a second term of it.

Without Covid MIV, republicans own all three chambers.

Clean up voting systems and voters will show you that we are still majority center-right.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4331 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 10:48 pm to
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conservative populism


There's no such thing as "conservative populism." There are different flavors of populism—there's the populism favored by those who watch Tucker Carlson and the flavor of populism favored by those who march in BLM parades (riots), but curiously, both groups are on record against capitalism (actually, not curiously at all...the more populist the right becomes, the more it will continue to become like the left). So which one is the "conservative" one?

I think it's probably more likely that Trump wins in 2020 without COVID, but I think it's a huge stretch to act like having all three branches without COVID is a certainty, but that's not really the point of this discussion, is it?

Say we did have all three branches, but couldn't agree on an agenda because the agenda isn't informed by any foundational principles. What good would it do?

The populism of both the right and left wants America to become an isolationist country, completely ignoring the history of what happens every time we do that. BLM opposes capitalism because it oppresses black people (supposedly), fans of Tucker Carlson oppose it because it produces Dollar Stores. No populist anywhere is willing to give up SS/Medicare. Both sides are addicted to conspiracy theories. Neither side wants to close the border (and I posted why I think that is above...too long to re-post, but let's just say that IMO the root of it goes back to losing those "Puritanical traditional social values").

So let's say we had all three branches packed full of populists from the right. What would happen? What would the agenda be?

I guarantee you it wouldn't be a small government agenda. So what would we have won?

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