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re: Supreme Court agrees to review Trump’s Colorado ballot ban in historic case

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:37 pm to
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The part that's resulted in scores of felony convictions.

I already said a protest became a riot.

That has nothing to do with "insurrection"
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:37 pm to
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Floyd Dawg


I'm sorry that your panties are in a wad because I didn't state that the Colorado Supreme Court affirmed the lower court's factual finding that Trump engaged in insurrection and is ineligible for the ballot.

Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:38 pm to
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At the moment, this is incorrect. Per the Colorado Supreme Court.


Nope. Dummy. The Colorado Supreme Court ruling stated that their decision was stayed if an appeal was made pending the result of that appeal. You are 100% wrong. As per usual.
Trump, at this moment, is eligible to be on the ballot.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 7:40 pm
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:38 pm to
Bless your heart.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:39 pm to
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How many were for insurrection?


I forget, but a nonzero number were convicted for seditious conspiracy.

However, it's lucky for me that the 14th Amendment doesn't require a conviction in any sense to legally exclude Trump from the ballot because of his engaging in insurrection.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:39 pm to
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It's self-executing,

Based on which supreme Court case?

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Whatever it was, Colorado and Maine judges consider it satisfied.

Well they're compromised intellectually and partisan
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:40 pm to
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At the moment, this is incorrect. Per the Colorado Supreme Court.

You should do some actual reading (and not David French).
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:40 pm to
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I already said a protest became a riot.


What was the point of the protest? How about the riot?

What was the ultimate goal that day, in their own words?

We can even leave aside hanging our current VP.

What did they want to happen? What did they violently try to do?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:41 pm to
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I forget, but a nonzero number were convicted for seditious conspiracy.


Not a single person was charged with insurrection.

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However, it's lucky for me that the 14th Amendment doesn't require a conviction in any sense to legally exclude Trump from the ballot because of his engaging in insurrection.


Trump is, at this moment, eligible to be on the Colorado ballot. Once again, you have no clue as to the law, yet opine from a place of complete ignorance.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:41 pm to
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Based on which supreme Court case?


Based on insurrectionists in the past being excluded from federal office.
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:41 pm to
Wager on Trump being on the ballot in every state in November ?
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:42 pm to
I am so glad you came back. This will entertain me until I go to bed.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49014 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:42 pm to
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Based on insurrectionists in the past being excluded from federal office.


Again. Read the entirety of the 14th amendment and stop making a fool of yourself.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:42 pm to
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What was the point of the protest?

Lots of protests with lots of reasons

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How about the riot?

Irrational mob mental. It was very popular in 2020. Caused a summer of terrorism

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We can even leave aside hanging our current VP.

Pence is alive and umhanged

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What did they want to happen?

A novel legal challenge to the EC certifications

Perfectly legal to try

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What did they violently try to do?

Stand up to cops like we saw in most cities all summer in 2020
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:43 pm to
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Based on insurrectionists in the past being excluded from federal office.

An admission of intellectual dishonesty
Posted by BamaAtl
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:43 pm to
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Not a single person was charged with insurrection.


Is the problem that you don't know what seditious conspiracy is?

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Trump is, at this moment, eligible to be on the Colorado ballot.


Incorrect. The ruling is stayed, true, but without SCOTUS overturning the Colorado Supreme Court (or granting cert and slow-walking past November, which doesn't appear to be the case after today) he will be ineligible to appear on the ballot.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:44 pm to
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Read the entirety of the 14th amendment


It's very clear that Section 3 is self-executing and Section 5 doesn't require them to make specific laws.

So clear, in fact, that 3 was used already without said laws. It's already been done, and you're already wrong.
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:45 pm to
So you’d be comfortable making a wager :)
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:45 pm to
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If the SCOTUS sides with the Colorado Supreme Court Groomers I think we can all agree Fundamental Transformation is complete


The Republic will be lost for sure. Welcome to fascism and tyranny.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:46 pm to
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Do you believe a person who has been convicted of impeachment and disqualified from holding office can still run for President


What impeachment was Trump convicted of? First one? Second one?

When did Congress disqualify Trump from running for office?
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