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re: Roberts/SCOTUS needs to address this Trump shite right now
Posted on 1/1/24 at 6:18 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 1/1/24 at 6:18 pm to NC_Tigah
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You opined
You're the one trying to merge two unrelated concepts (an election of a person and a trial of a person)
Support of one doesn't mean you'll support the other and vice versa.
There are millions of people who will vote for Trump who haven't discarded the system like Patriots have. The only way to get to the merge that you propose is effectively to discard the system and destroy the institutions. Then you can discard anything and say it wasn't real because it wasn't popular.
It's actually a very strong self-fulfilling prophecy as a fallacy because even if I'm right and what I say does happen, then you'll just try to argue that the system is not valid somehow. So let's say Trump is removed by the Senate for engaging in this behavior like I predict, you will shift the blame to something else that you've invalidated like the media and then try to claim that the removal is not valid or legal because of that taint. You create constantly moving targets so that you can never be wrong
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:37 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:The "person" in this instance is the POTUS.
You're the one trying to merge two unrelated concepts (an election of a person and a trial of a person)
So in this instance, as we have discussed, the civil and criminal accusations will be a part of the Fall campaign. Trump will be asked about his plans in dealing with them hundreds of times in hundreds of ways. His plans re: pardon will be well known to the electorate prior to November.
If he is elected, it will be in large part due to the charges (and the banana republic law they represent) rather than in spite of them. If he is elected, there is also likelihood he'll carry the Senate and House with him.
You opine Congress would impeach Trump if the DOJ dropped the case, and/or if he pardoned himself. Given the premise of GOP Congressional majorities, how exactly, in your opinion, would impeachment go down?
In a scenario where the electorate determines the POTUS & Congress, and POTUS/Congress in turn determine the AG, the charges, trials, and election are not only not "unrelated concepts," they are inextricably linked.
If that is not clear, let me know.
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