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re: Pope Francis permits Priests to bless same sex couples in major Vatican doctrine change
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:32 am to 4cubbies
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:32 am to 4cubbies
Will he also bless people actively and unapologetically engaging in extra marital affairs? Seeking a blessing as part of a greater movement to remove the Church’s stance against adultery?
How would that be different?
How would that be different?
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:32 am to bayoubengals88
quote:
I'm Presbyterian
dont Presbyterians bless same sex marriages
or is that just certain portions of it
and ordinate LBGTQ+ ministers
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 10:36 am
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:35 am to gaetti15
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:35 am to gaetti15
quote:We're all a work in progress. I cannot defend the mainline, but I pray for unity. With them, and with you.
or is that just certain portions of it
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:35 am to RebelExpress38
quote:
When people argue against Sola Scriptura this is what you get.
The Episcopalian church says hello.
The difference here is that Francis is simply saying that individuals who are gay can receive a blessing, or a prayer to repent of their sins, whereas most (practically all) sola scriptura protestant denominations have sects that actually perform same-sex marriages.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 10:37 am
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:38 am to Fun Bunch
He is a globalist heretic.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:38 am to 4cubbies
Already seen all of it.
If a married man and his mistress show up for a blessing together as a couple, it appears that this is now ok.
But we know it isn’t. It specifically calls out same sex couples.
If a married man and his mistress show up for a blessing together as a couple, it appears that this is now ok.
But we know it isn’t. It specifically calls out same sex couples.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:41 am to Stitches
quote:Well that's not true
whereas most (practically all) sola scriptura protestant denominations have sects that actually perform same-sex marriages.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:44 am to bayoubengals88
Didn't the Presbyterian church just split (again) over this?
Wasn't that also a big reason why the UMC just went through a huge schism?
I'm genuinely asking, as I could very well be mistaken.
Wasn't that also a big reason why the UMC just went through a huge schism?
I'm genuinely asking, as I could very well be mistaken.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:48 am to Stitches
quote:The USA, PCA, EPC, and OPC represent about 90% of all American Presbyterians.
Didn't the Presbyterian church just split (again) over this?
The USA is the mainline, and there are subtle differences between the other three. The youngest of the four is the EPC, which is over 40 years old. So no splits there.
I think you are referring to the United Methodists or the CRC. The Methodist split has nothing to do with Presbyterianism.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:51 am to Fun Bunch
I never thought I would see a Pope that is so left on the majority of tings
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:55 am to Fun Bunch
I wonder if the Pope has read the Bible. It's teachings on the matter are clear.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:56 am to LRB1967
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wonder if the Pope has read the Bible. It's teachings on the matter are clear.
bible is pretty clear about divorce and remarriage too, but dont tell that to Protestants
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:56 am to bayoubengals88
Yes I was referring to United Methodist. I know they have nothing to do with Presbyterians, I was just pointing out two of the more recent denominations that have shifted in that direction as a whole. Though I do recognize that the individual associations don't necessarily represent the greater denomination and its confession as a whole.
My original response was to point out that sola scriptura being the cure for liberal or progressive doctrines is simply not how this actually works.
My original response was to point out that sola scriptura being the cure for liberal or progressive doctrines is simply not how this actually works.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:56 am to 4cubbies
quote:
Who needs blessings more than sinners?
There is a HUGE difference between being a sinner (which we all are) and struggling to live a righteous life and being a sinner and accepting it. Gay couples aren’t trying to live a righteous life, they are asking for their sin to be an exception.
Why do I struggle to live a chaste life if at the end of the day chastity no longer matters? That’s what blessing a gay union does, it says loudly chastity doesn’t matter.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:00 am to StrongOffer
quote:
I think this is more misinformation by MSM. This is basically, a gay person walks up to the front during communion and gets a blessing. This is not priests "blessing their marriage".
I agree this isn't as shocking as the headlines leads on
quote:
“When people ask for a blessing, an exhaustive moral analysis should not be placed as a precondition for conferring it,” the declaration, authored by Cardinal Fernandez and another official, states. “The grace of God works in the lives of those who do not claim to be righteous but who acknowledge themselves humbly as sinners, like everyone else.”
quote:
While the pope has not changed the church’s opposition to gay marriage nor has he changed Catholic sexual teachings, he has sought to emphasise a pastoral and sensitive approach, which is having a significant impact on LGBTQ Catholics.
LINK
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 11:02 am
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:01 am to Stitches
quote:Unfortunately, you're right. History has shown that it is not the fix we need.
My original response was to point out that sola scriptura being the cure for liberal or progressive doctrines is simply not how this actually works.
But I do not believe in a pure or perfect church. There have always been blemishes, and there always will be, until the end. I think that's kind of the point.
Blemishes don't mean that hell has prevailed.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:01 am to dbbuilder79
quote:
I don't know much about Catholic blessings.
Just by reading the article, it says the priest cannot bless gay couples at the time of union. So what is the blessing for?
Either way, it seems like a slippery slope to offer gay marriages.
Just to quiet everyone lol.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:02 am to gaetti15
quote:
bible is pretty clear about divorce and remarriage too, but dont tell that to Protestants
100% agreed LOL.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:10 am to bayoubengals88
Agreed. Something about wheat and tares comes to mind.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 11:12 am
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