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re: Kelly supports the Bama over FSU decision
Posted on 12/7/23 at 4:16 pm to OceanMan
Posted on 12/7/23 at 4:16 pm to OceanMan
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Maybe, but who are we talking about? Bama and Michigan? TX and UDub?
I'm talking about your Power 5 conference winners who are really the only teams considered for the CFP. 3 undefeated; 2 1-loss.
In my book, they would all be considered similar record and pedigree. So, it's hard to use a tie-breaker across 5 teams that meet the similar criteria.
As far as Michigan and Washington, that's an interesting debate. Michigan was No. 2 most of the season until they got jumped by Ohio St. Michigan reclaimed number 2 after beating Ohio St. Come selection time, they weren't going to drop them.
Washington was below FSU until their win against Oregon St and they stayed above FSU through the rest of the season.
Losses by Georgia and Oregon pushed Michigan and Washington to 1 and 2. The committee wasn't going to push FSU above them. They both benefitted from staying ahead of FSU towards the end of the season and beating Oregon and Iowa.
So the 3-way look at Texas, Bama, and FSU was going to happen. I won't dive back into to all those considerations again.
I wouldn't have railed against an FSU selection; it would be justifiable, but I the selection of Texas and Bama is equally justifiable.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 4:45 pm to DakIsNoLB
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I'm talking about your Power 5 conference winners who are really the only teams considered for the CFP
But, they haven’t always been the ones selected. No undefeated P5 champ has ever been, until this year.
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As far as Michigan and Washington, that's an interesting debate. Michigan was No. 2 most of the season until they got jumped by Ohio St. Michigan reclaimed number 2 after beating Ohio St. Come selection time, they weren't going to drop them.
Sounds like you are saying SoS or conf champ opponents was not considered and therefore
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they would all be considered similar record and pedigree.
Appears to be incorrect. They got in because of where they were placed months ago.
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Washington was below FSU until their win against Oregon St and they stayed above FSU through the rest of the season.
You are only comparing them to FSU, why is that?
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Washington was below FSU until their win against Oregon St and they stayed above FSU through the rest of the season.
So their qualification over FSU was being ranked ahead of them.
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They both benefitted from staying ahead of FSU towards the end of the season
So again, we are comparing which 3 teams? The ones with, similar records?
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So the 3-way look at Texas, Bama, and FSU was going to happen. I won't dive back into to all those considerations again.
I’m sorry, but it really appears that you are not willing to support your assertion that all 5 teams had a similar record and thus needed to have a tie-breaker applied. And you pretty clearly went through the undefeated teams first, then to the one loss teams. You are just recalling what happened and rationalizing it.
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I wouldn't have railed against an FSU selection; it would be justifiable, but I the selection of Texas and Bama is equally justifiable.
Would it have been justifiable for the rankings to be 1.UT 2. Bama 3. FSU 4. Washington?
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