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re: Kelly supports the Bama over FSU decision

Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by DakIsNoLB
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:38 pm to
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The committee said FSU didn’t get in because their QB got hurt. Not because of any other reason. Anything else is just an effort to justify a decision that has already been made with admittedly different criteria used.


They have more than that as a criteria. Easily read on their website. I'm not going to assume they didn't consider everything that their published criteria states. There's no way they didn't consider Bama and Texas SoS, record, CCG opponents, and a CCG win. That's lazy to think they only kept FSU out because of Travis being out.

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FSU played 2 SEC teams away from home in a conference that has produced a NC winner in the playoff era. The ACC had a winning record vs the SEC. If their schedule is weak, it’s completely circumstantial.


No if; their schedule is weak; or at least weaker than Bama and Texas. And SoS is a stated criteria for playoff selection. It doesn't matter how the ACC did against the SEC; it matters how each respective team did against their opponents and the strength of those opponents. There's no way to separate that from the decision.

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Liberty isn’t even in the discussion because FSU didn’t get in. That’s a straw man argument, and it’s not even in conflict with any advocating for FSU.


I'm bringing them in the discussion. Why shouldn't they get in?
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:04 pm to
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They have more than that as a criteria. Easily read on their website. I'm not going to assume they didn't consider everything that their published criteria states.


It’s subjective, and they stated their reasoning. That’s not an assumption.

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There's no way they didn't consider Bama and Texas SoS, record, CCG opponents, and a CCG win. That's lazy to think they only kept FSU out because of Travis being out.


Oh they did. They also used their criteria that head-to-head MUST be considered when comparing two teams, which is why FSU ultimately got left out. They couldn’t, per their own guidelines, bring in bama without UT.

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And SoS is a stated criteria for playoff selection.


So how is it calculated and where can you find it? How does FSU compare to the other undefeated teams?

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I'm bringing them in the discussion. Why shouldn't they get in?


Because there are already 4 teams in that you have already made an argument for, that would exclude them.

If the committee were to put in Michigan Washington and FSU, I would expect an explanation of how they decided on that final team. I wouldn’t expect them to be ranked ahead of those teams because of lack of comparability with common opponents.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20050 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:21 pm to
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I'm not going to assume they didn't consider everything that their published criteria states.


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SoS, record, CCG opponents, and a CCG win


I’d like to add that all of the criteria is preceded by “when comparing similar records and pedigree”

History shows that record is the single most important factor in ranking teams, which supports the statement above.
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