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re: Kelly supports the Bama over FSU decision

Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by DakIsNoLB
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:03 pm to
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That’s a stupid metric. It really is.



Really? How so? FSU played more teams with losing records than Texas and Bama. It's stupid because you don't like it unless you have viable counter argument. If you're discounting records then why should we care about 13-0 over 12-1?

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Says who?


Louisville's SoS (i.e. that silly metric of opponents' combined win-loss record); they played more teams with losing records than not. Louisville isn't near on par with UGA and is at most equal to Oklahoma St.

I don't know how anyone claiming to be a reasonable and rational person can ignore strength of schedule.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:31 pm to
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Really? How so? FSU played more teams with losing records than Texas and Bama. It's stupid because you don't like it unless you have viable counter argument. If you're discounting records then why should we care about 13-0 over 12-1?


I’m not sure why I would owe you a counter argument, the SoS is a counter argument to winning games being the most important factor. But since I said it was stupid I’ll play along.

It’s stupid because there are endless qualifications that can be presented. Here are a few off the top of my head:

UF at home regardless of their record is a tougher game than any other mid season OOC game played by the other teams you listed.

UT and Bama both have at least one more win in their opponents W-L column because they lost a game. Bama’s SoS improved BECAUSE they hey lost a game.

If you went game by game, and looked at those opponent schedules, you would be further away from clarity, not closer. It’s ultimately a circular argument.

When comparing two undefeated teams, sure use the SoS. When comparing teams with losses to one’s without, that’s just a justification for subjective decision making.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20049 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:36 pm to
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Louisville's SoS (i.e. that silly metric of opponents' combined win-loss record); they played more teams with losing records than not. Louisville isn't near on par with UGA and is at most equal to Oklahoma St.


The same group that made the decision you are justifying has OSU ranked several spots behind Louisville. “At most equal” is not exactly how you started your argument either.

Again, you are attempting to justify a decision that was explicitly based on subjectivity with this reasoning. It’s inherently flawed.
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