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re: Dante Moore plans to enter the portal
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:54 am to TigerKnights
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:54 am to TigerKnights
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Yes, my exact words. You read the part in between what you highlighted right? Did you want me to spell out "by your logic" when it's implied?
OK.. and what about this exchange?
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If this is true, then there’s no risk in bringing in a guy like Moore.
There is if it's not a competition which it isn't.
I don’t know, man. All I can tell you is that it looks to me (and likely to everyone else) as if you’re saying Nuss won’t have an opportunity to compete for the job if we bring in a high-level transfer.
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No, I'm saying that's the logic people are using to claim any transfer is superior. It's not logic at all.
I don’t see a ton of people clamoring to bring a guy like Moore in and anoint him as the 2024 starter without even making him earn it in camp. Most are simply saying they’d love to have him on the roster and let the best man win. They might be giving you reasons they aren’t on the Nuss bus but that doesn’t mean anyone wants to just hand the job to someone else. It’s just a reason to bring someone else in.
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We have a presumptive starter
A “presumptive starter” is not a returning starter. Regardless of whether you expected this much improvement from Daniels in year 2, he was one of (if not the) most experienced QBs in the SEC going into this year. Most folks (outside of the vocal contingent on tRant who wanted him benched) expected him to be one of the better quarterbacks in the conference this year. While Nuss is experienced by backup standards, he’s nowhere near as much of a known commodity as JD was going into this year.
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and a backup at the same level Nuss was year 1 of JD.
1) That’s just not true. They were both going into their RS freshman years, but that’s where the similarities end. Collins has only attempted 2 passes, against Grambling. Nussmeier had played a quarter against Ole Miss and almost the entire game against Arkansas, plus garbage time in a couple of cupcake games earlier in the year. He had seen way more game action than Collins.
2) Even if they did have the same amount of experience, you gonna tell me you think Collins is as good as Nussmeier? I mean.. maybe he is, but I don’t know how anyone can say that with confidence.
3) None of the above matters because we also had Myles Brennan in 2022 spring camp. In fact - if you really want a comparison for 2024, it’s not much different than 2022 was before Daniels transferred in.
In 2022 you had a veteran with starting experience who had showed a lot of potential before his injury in Myles Brennan. You had a RS Fr who looked promising the prior year in Nussmeier. And you had true Fr Walker Howard. The thought at the time was that Brennan and Nuss would be competing for the job. Then we brought Daniels in.
In 2024 we have a RS Jr in Nussmeier who has shown flashes but never started, a RS Fr in Collins who we haven’t really seen at all, and true FR Hurley. I would argue that the QB room going into 2022 felt much better than this one, and we still took a transfer.
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A bigger concern which is probably what Shea was discussing would be pushing out Underwood if you bring in a guy who is the presumptive starter after Nuss.
Putting aside all of the talk about “presumptive starters,” the Underwood point is the only thing that concerns me about bringing a transfer in. Obviously we don’t want to scare that guy off before he steps foot on campus, and I’m sure it’s a major focus of Kelly & staff.
I don’t know if any of this really matters, because I would assume the QB room will play a big part in where Moore decides to go anyway. But the kid gloves with Nussmeier are silly. If he’s as good as people think, it’ll take care of itself.
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