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re: The GLP-1 Protocol

Posted on 3/14/24 at 7:45 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 7:45 am to
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Making up statistics isn’t helping your cause.

Suffice it to say I am amply qualified to speak on this subject matter.


then why are you going against all the literature that is over 50 meta analysis and hundreds of studies that show simply eating less and moving more aka CICO will cause body fat loss?


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Are you trying to sell this protocol? That would make A LOT of sense if you are. A lot.




yea im selling a protocol that i published for free, with items that linked in the op to buy at your local walgreens :rotflmao:



1st link- talks about

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vidence suggests that the action or effect of GLP-1 may be impaired in obese subjects, even in those with normal glucose tolerance. GLP-1 impairment may help explain the increased gastric emptying and decreased satiety signalling seen in obesity


again, i fully acknowledge that glp1 is more than likely impaired with the obese. But what the study does not address is that is...is it impaired because they have become obese or did they become obese because it was impaired from birth?

I am of the belief it is impaired due to lifestyle



2nd study- directly from the study
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Besides dietary nonadherence and physical inactivity, psychiatric, anatomical, genetic, and hormonal causes are suggested to be underlying reasons for WR or IWL post MBS


so the study fully acknowledges that with dietary adherence and physical activity....they would not regain the weight...right?

of course glp1 plays a role in keeping it off...i think you and i can both agree with that and if it is impaired than of course you should get on and stay on a low dose. I am 100% believer in trying to live better through chemistry


3rd link is icing on the cake and proves my point-

quote:

Plasma GLP-1 Response in Obesity
Both early and full relative GLP-1 responses (rAUC0–30 and rAUC0–120) were decreased by 20% in obesity and eight percent in overweight compared with normal weight after adjustment for age, sex and glucose tolerance status (Fig. 2). Comparable results were obtained when using the incremental AUC for GLP-1



so.... glp-1 repsonse is impaired by obesity. the more overweight one is, the more it is impaired. you are not born with the impairment...it is self inflicted in almost all cases.


the last link- its an article first off, dont link opinion articles when i ask for studies. especially when it comes from the assholes at havard who have been proven to be on the take. but the article is just a basic article on glp1s and how they are awesome...no shite, i agree






ok so i think you are misunderstanding some things. Im all for people using glp-1s but there is no need to jump to the highest doses right off the bat and expose yourself to the sides that come from ramping too fast. there are other items such as an EC stack that can be used safely to ramp up metabolism and prolong weight loss at minimum dosing.

2nd the half-life of glp1 is around 5 days, meaning the dose should be split into 2 shots a week minimum if one wants to minimize sides

3rd- lifestyle has to play a part in the process or you arent really taking advantage of the medicine at all. You also open yourself up to massive amounts of muscle loss if protein isnt priortized and progressive resistance training is not introduced. Also if lifestyle changes are not implemented you become a slave to the drug, even with one as amazing as glp1 and all the health benefits...we want to try and avoid this



i am fine with people that need to, staying on the medicine for life. but if you do not have to...dont. its expensive AF for most and if you can teach yourself the lifestyle it takes to live healthy...that is always going to be the preferred path

i would like to know, what part of the protocol do you not agree with? Is it simply that they come off at all? please explain what you dont like about it and maybe you can convince me, if you have the studies to back it up, that im wrong

but how you came at me and the thread to start talking about its a disease and people cant help it etc...well you are on the wrong board for that as many of us were overweight or obese, lost it and have kept it off, including myself.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58691 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:04 pm to
Interesting article on GLPs. Nothing surprising to me though. They 100% affect the brain as much as the gut.

LINK

Original article with probable paywall.

This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 5:06 pm
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