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re: King Charles confirms plans for lifetime smoking ban in the UK

Posted on 11/9/23 at 6:00 am to
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 6:00 am to
The is the logical conclusion of universal healthcare.

Why would you allow smoking, junk food, etc if you want government to pay for your healthcare? Can’t have it both ways.
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 6:01 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99808 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 6:24 am to
quote:

The is the logical conclusion of universal healthcare.

Why would you allow smoking, junk food, etc if you want government to pay for your healthcare? Can’t have it both ways


Actually, what it reflects is half measures (one way or the other) don't work.

The push against smoking and certain foods, plus diet and exercise, has extended life expectancies. But the costs of that (longer on SS, more medical treatment [and more expensive] for Medicare, increased instances of dementia/alzheimers, more people in hurting homes) tax the system.

You either let people indulge in their suicidal vices to thin the herd, or you completely prohibit them, to reduce longer term costs.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41351 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:01 am to
quote:

The is the logical conclusion of universal healthcare. Why would you allow smoking, junk food, etc if you want government to pay for your healthcare? Can’t have it both ways.



Now do a cost/benefit analysis of end-of-life care for grandma. Universal healthcare ain’t paying for that shite either. Instead, a competitive marketplace would reward health lifestyles and punish non-healthy lifestyles. No need for the gov’t to get involved at all.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19577 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 8:58 am to
You’re saw this with the soda tax, but controlling sugar intake would be a logically connected push.

People are cutting their own throats by supporting these rules. It won’t end. There’s no point where they’ll stop restricting your freedoms. And they will be expanded to things you like or care about.
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