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Is one State the answer?
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:08 pm
Hamas must go, no question. they made their death bed and will soon meet their maker...and 72 virgins
but is there a path for peace after Hamas?
I don't think so...
but is there a path for peace after Hamas?
I don't think so...
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Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:08 pm to ApexTiger
When one side’s solution is “one state from the river to the sea”, Israel’s answer may end up being “Challenge accepted.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:10 pm to ApexTiger
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but is there a path for peace after Hamas?
I don't think so..
Nope. There will always be war between the Jews and Islam. Two different ways of life.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:10 pm to ApexTiger
There was never a peaceful solution when the "Palestinians'" only goal is the destruction of Israel.
When you actually think about it, this whole notion of "peace in the Middle East" is silly in that light.
When you actually think about it, this whole notion of "peace in the Middle East" is silly in that light.
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:10 pm to ApexTiger
The illusion of the Universal Caliphate is in the minds of all Muslims.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:11 pm to ApexTiger
Jordan and Egypt have been peaceful for quite some time. A good arse kicking seems to bring out the best in nations. Look at Japan, they’re peaceful ole baws
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:14 pm to Ace Midnight
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only goal is the destruction of Israel.
So why not team up with the other 15 arab nations in the region and destroy Israel already I’ve been hearing this BS my whole life and it’s never happened
Because it’s a goddamn grift
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:15 pm to KTBFFH92
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So why not team up with the other 15 arab nations in the region and destroy Israel already I’ve been hearing this BS my whole life and it’s never happened
It’s been tried several times.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:17 pm to KTBFFH92
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KTBFFH92
Member since Oct 2023
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So why not team up with the other 15 arab nations in the region and destroy Israel already I’ve been hearing this BS my whole life and it’s never happened
Because it’s a goddamn grift
I normally don't reply to alters but if they did then other countries would band together against them and crush the whole Islamic state. Doing it this way they are able to play the sympathy card with supporters around the world.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:18 pm to ApexTiger
No. Winner takes all.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:18 pm to doubleb
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It’s been tried several times.
And it has always been a shite show because they keep lying to each other about their success.
The Six Days War was a huge clusterfrick for the Muslims because Israel destroyed Egypt’s entire Air Force on the ground on day one and Egypt lied about it. Israel had air superiority for the entire rest of the conflict and the only tough fighting was the urban fighting in Jerusalem IIRC.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:18 pm to KTBFFH92
Because the rest of the Middle East hates the Palestinians more than they hate the Jews.....
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:19 pm to KTBFFH92
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So why not team up with the other 15 arab nations in the region and destroy Israel already I’ve been hearing this BS my whole life and it’s never happened
Because it’s a goddamn grift
They dont attack because Israel has nuclear weapons (that they deny... wink wink nod nod).
And I am sure the coordinates of every neighbor are already programed into them. If Israel were ever on the verge of being destroyed I believe they would take all the entire middle east with them.
And I wouldnt blame them.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:20 pm to bluedragon
They hate the Jews more but they don’t want to be responsible for the retarded brother in law that is the Palestinians.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:22 pm to ApexTiger
There are only two solutions for peace in that area. A Two State Solution will never work.
1. One State Solution.
Allow the fight to go on. Right now, the referee (the "international communitay") calls a stop to the boxing match after 1 or 2 punches. Allow the fight to continue until its natural conclusion, they way things worked before the "international communitay" existed.
2. Third State Solution.
A third-party, "Stone Cold" interrupts the fight with a steel chair. The "international communitay" referee takes the first shot from the steel chair, then both combatants are knocked out cold. This is the only thing that has worked previously. The Roman Empire and Ottoman Empire enforced peace in the area in this manner.
1. One State Solution.
Allow the fight to go on. Right now, the referee (the "international communitay") calls a stop to the boxing match after 1 or 2 punches. Allow the fight to continue until its natural conclusion, they way things worked before the "international communitay" existed.
2. Third State Solution.
A third-party, "Stone Cold" interrupts the fight with a steel chair. The "international communitay" referee takes the first shot from the steel chair, then both combatants are knocked out cold. This is the only thing that has worked previously. The Roman Empire and Ottoman Empire enforced peace in the area in this manner.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:22 pm to ApexTiger
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:29 pm to ApexTiger
One state isn’t the answer because of demographics. Palestinians have more children than Israelites and so a one state solution would just make Israelites quickly over populated in their own nation. The solution has always been two-state. No one will go for it though, because it makes neither side happy
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:31 pm to MAADFACTS
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One state isn’t the answer because of demographics
Which party rejected the two state option?
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:36 pm to KTBFFH92
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So why not team up with the other 15 arab nations in the region and destroy Israel already I’ve been hearing this BS my whole life and it’s never happened
They tried that a couple of times before you were born. Most of the others pivoted to getting along with Israel, if only behind the scenes (while continuing to say, publicly, they want to destroy Israel). They never stand down in Gaza or the West Bank though. They're 100% in it to win it.
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goddamn grift
I mean, maybe you're right. If you are, it is an awfully bloody and capricious grift, I'll hand them that.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Which party rejected the two state option?
There won't be a two-state solution because there can't be. We've existed in de facto two-state for almost 18 years. Look any different to you?
There can't be a two-state solution because they don't look at it like RogerTheShrubber does--that is, here is part of this arid area that is yours. They instead look at Holy Sites given to them by God. Muslims want Jerusalem. No two-state solution will give them Jerusalem. Israel wants Jerusalem. No two-state solution will give them sole control over Jerusalem. We've spent almost 90 years trying to impose a political solution on a religious dispute. It isn't going to happen that way.
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