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re: Some thoughts on the mentally ill, violence and mass shootings.

Posted on 10/26/23 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 6:49 pm to
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Bipolar disorder, chronic paranoid schizophrenia, major depression or other such illnesses don't cause or contribute to these horrible events.


Not contribute? They may not be the only factor but not sure how you can say they don't or can't contribute. And in some cases literal structural damage to the brain or illness has been cited as contributing factors.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11680 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 6:52 pm to
I would phrase, they rarely contribute to. If so, typically the paranoid schizophrenic
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14533 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 7:05 pm to
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Not contribute? They may not be the only factor but not sure how you can say they don't or can't contribute. And in some cases literal structural damage to the brain or illness has been cited as contributing factors.


Mental illness does not make someone more likely to commit acts of violence. The mentally ill commit violence against others at the same rate as the general population.

Monsters can have mental illness too but the illness doesn't make the monster do what he does. Nor does it trigger him.

The characterologically defective can also get depressed, have mood swings and suffer from psychosis but these things do not set the stage for his violence. His defect of character does that.

It's a mistake to pigeonhole any sort of mass shooter as being mentally ill. To do so makes an inner city gangster mentally ill. An indiscriminate Hamas murderer mentally ill. A terrorist bomber mentally ill.

What all of these types of mass killers have in common is that they're aggrieved or they've fashioned themselves as victims. They've systematically turned the rest of us into objects or obstacles. Nothing more than insects to be squashed. That process takes time. It's a personal journey and it doesn't happen quickly.

This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 7:08 pm
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