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re: Time to claim 1908
Posted on 10/18/23 at 10:02 pm to tigger1
Posted on 10/18/23 at 10:02 pm to tigger1
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Mike, you have to know the 1908 season, Haskell plays x, x plays y and you're at Carlisle and other teams
I get it that there are links to the top teams in those regions. The problem is that Haskell LOST to the teams that establish those links. LSU beat a team that lost to a team that lost to another team that lost to Carlisle does nothing to bolster LSU’s bonafides. I know that’s a little exaggerated since Nebraska does have closer ties. The best you have is Haskell “only” lost 10-0 to Nebraska who tied Minnesota who beat Carlisle who tied Penn (but also lost 17-0 to Harvard.) The problem there is that Nebraska connects directly to Carlisle through a 37-6 loss. The 10-0 loss was also played in a driving rain on a field that was a mud pit. It was actually Haskell’s best result of the season so the weather conditions do call in question its usefulness as a gauge of the level of the two teams. Likewise Nebraska’s tie with Minnesota wasn’t consistent with blowout losses to Kansas and Carlisle, the only other two legitimate opponents on their schedule. Minnesota beating Carlisle also did not match their 0-2 Western Conference performance (including a 29-0 loss to Chicago.) The direct loss by Nebraska against Carlisle seems more indicative of the level of both teams. As such the links don’t do much for establishing LSU’s level compared to Carlisle.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 3:27 pm to MikeTheTiger71
Now Mike go look up Haskell's starting lineup vs Nebraska vs Carlisle and then do every match up.
Give the offensive plays, hind Carlisle and LSU are the two known throwing teams.
Then compare and edge game and passing game vs the inside game of every team in college in 1908.
LSU completed a double and triple pass in the Arkansas game.
This at a time when it was a 15-yard penalty for missed completion.
Passing rules are changed to do away with that rule, even in the middle 1910's passing was looked on as cheating.
LSU used an edge game with counters and up the middle to keep teams honest. The passing was the game breaker as teams covered the run and at times left the end wide open.
Give the offensive plays, hind Carlisle and LSU are the two known throwing teams.
Then compare and edge game and passing game vs the inside game of every team in college in 1908.
LSU completed a double and triple pass in the Arkansas game.
This at a time when it was a 15-yard penalty for missed completion.
Passing rules are changed to do away with that rule, even in the middle 1910's passing was looked on as cheating.
LSU used an edge game with counters and up the middle to keep teams honest. The passing was the game breaker as teams covered the run and at times left the end wide open.
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