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re: Florida Politics: “National support for Ron DeSantis hits low point — again”

Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:39 pm to
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On the positive front though you guys can come up with fun nicknames and pat yourselves on the back until election night where you can say it was stolen again and ignore the folks telling you why Trump will lose by saying any Republican would have lost anyway.


Stay the course. Never admit defeat. Even though as an acolyte of DeSantis, it by necessity requires a false belief in another fallacy - that the last election was forthright, above board, and beyond reproach.

This preoccupation with someone who has never proven anything beyond that he's a regional candidate, is so reminiscent of 2015 when the Cruzifixes were in an absolute frenzy, hysteria, seemingly lined up and eager to show the level of virulent hatred towards Trump, insisting that he couldn't win, using every spurious excuse from "not articulate enough, to gruff and insulting."

Yet in keeping with the preoccupation with "contradictions" as the communist bolsheviks insisted was something to be avoided, some of them now hold a curious admiration for a Putin.

There's a likelihood that for the most part the Cruzifixes and DeSantis-ites are one and the same - of course with exceptions.

But not with the same amount of verve and virulence, so you all are going to have to step up your game. Even with the continuing subsidence of popularity we keep seeing daily from the DeSantis camp.

Ordinarily, something that only deserves to be chalked up to political pre-election rhetoric.

The only problem in retrospect, had the Cruzites gotten their way, we would now be nearing the end of Obama's 3rd term, with little to no prospects, or hope of ever reversing the slide.

At least that brief 4 years stirred up some glimmer of hope.

Notice how it took a few years to regroup, but the Clinton Global Initiative (influence peddlers without borders) has reared its ugly head again. How much more plain can it get.

Imagine how powerful and irreversible it would be now had Cruz been the Repubs' standard bearer.

Instead of a brief 4-year respite from the nation's 50-year slouch where some of us could see how good things could be under the right conditions.

But it requires actually winning the position first.

"By what ever means necessary."

We're never going to have some idyllic meld of Locke, W. J. Bryan, E. Burke, Montesquieu, Churchill running for the office as what some seemed to be hinting at in 2015.

The same callow, naive belief is at work presently, and it's not with the Trumpists.
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
1091 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:49 pm to
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Even though as an acolyte of DeSantis, it by necessity requires a false belief in another fallacy - that the last election was forthright, above board, and beyond reproach.


No it doesn’t. It’s possible to think the last election was stolen due to fraud and still think Desantis would be a better candidate.

The two are not mutually exclusive.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 3:50 pm
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5095 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:25 pm to
For many, Trump HAS shown us what he can and will do, and it’s ugly. I’ll go with the guy who has done the right thing, even if it’s local
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